OstHeer Vehicle suggestions

[hgghg4]

ammo not fuel

[guynumber7]

actually i think fuel would be better because instead of global upgrades you have that

[Paciat]

no reaosn why we cant have pz2 as an early game tnk and pz3 as a mid game tank with 5cm long barrel OR 75mm stubby, individually upgraded on each tank for fuel cost.

Every army needs an AA gun. Even Russians have a T-90.
20mm quad halftrack would be great.
The reaoson why we cant have Pz2 is that every OstHeer would have too much vechicles.
Balance reasons are important too. There cant be no armor thats immune to rifle bullets before the US can get a 57mm and UK can get a Stuart.

You got some good ideas about the PzIII. I just had a different concept.
In my opinion PzIII should have a 50mm becouse 37 mm would suck from the begining. 2 minutes after the 1st PzIIIf there would be a Cromwell or a T-34 on the field. Theres no point of a 37->50mm upgrade that needs to be done every time.
The PzIIIL should be a Stuart/Greyhound/M8 counter and 2 PzIII should be able to destroy a Cromwell or a T-34 (rear shots).

There should be a StuIII (stubby) with a global long barrel upgrade, becouse 11.000 of them were bulid. More than any german tank. Thats why theres no need for a second stubby - a PzIIIN.

[guynumber7]

i was kidna thinking pz2 would be equivilent to a sdfkz 234 or stuart, but with a 20mm gun. (would be better aganist vehicles then sdfkz's 20mm tho)

i do agree about the aa tank thing though but there are only a few aa tanks that arent already used...

Okay then i guess PZ3 could spawn with 5cm short barrel, okay aganist everything, and then could upgrade to long barrel for fuel and or ammo cost. If we have stug3 then thats okay.

[Redbull]

A Brumbar sturmpanzer ? Pz IV chassis with a 150mm stuh 43L/12 gun :

[GamblerSK]

Maybe the panzer II should be some early tank and can be destroyed by normal rifle ammo, i know that's out of reality but that's nothing new even PE infantry halftruck or sdkfz 222 can be destroyed by rifles in the game but in reality its nonsens so i don't see a big problem about destroying pz II by rifles too...

[SauerKRAUT]

I know there is already a model for a Sturmtiger, used in the old Botb mod and was basically a v1 on tracks that could t hit shit had range and reloaded faster.

[Gerrit 'Lord Rommel' G.]

Why do you want all the time the Jagdtiger and the Sturmtiger? Weapons which had never fought ( or just 2-3 days ) against red army?
In my opinion this weapons are interesting but not a possibility for an army which should represent the hole eastern front.

[Ghost]

Why do you want all the time the Jagdtiger and the Sturmtiger? Weapons which had never fought ( or just 2-3 days ) against red army?
In my opinion this weapons are interesting but not a possibility for an army which should represent the hole eastern front.

@lord rommel: guess the fact that pershings were included in vanilla coh keeps some people pushing to get those units in as well

i think lord rommel is right:
-jagdtiger would be unrealistic (maybe some fought at berlin?!)
-sturmtiger as well, let's use the sturmpanzer iv "brummbär", same type but smaller and more common
-instead of using tons of rare units it's better to use the more common tanks for the ostheer (panzer 2-4, panther, tiger1+2, marder2, sturmpanzer 4, stug3, etc.)

[Gerrit 'Lord Rommel' G.]

This "common" tanks are still better to represent a Ostheer which fight on the HOLE eastern front FROM 1941 till 1945.

So my point is that the Ostheer had to represent the hole frontline from start till end of the eastern battles
and Jagdtiger and Sturmtiger ( or Maus ) wont fill this representing-function!!!

[Ghost]

This "common" tanks are still better to represent a Ostheer which fight on the HOLE eastern front FROM 1941 till 1945.

So my point is that the Ostheer had to represent the hole frontline from start till end of the eastern battles
and Jagdtiger and Sturmtiger ( or Maus ) wont fill this representing-function!!!

+1

[irik]

I now understand that the Landkreuzers will not be in the Ostheer. I think I would want Panzer III too. I've been hearing Jagdtiger will not be in the Ostheer. But I still want the Rhinoceros and Elephant

[Raider217]

Panzer 2, Panzer 3, Stug 3, Marder 2 and Brummbar as a doctrine call in unit would be good

[ScreamingStukas]

Limiting it down to 8 vehicles.

I would choose

Panzer III (Begins as an Ausf G, can be upgraded to an Ausf J)
Panzer IV Ausf G (can be upgraded to an H)
Panther (Starts as the early Ausf D model, can be upgraded to an Ausf A or G)
Tiger I
StuG IIIG
Elefant ("doctrinal" call-in)
Nashorn ("doctrinal" call-in)
Jagdpanzer IV L/48 (Can be upgraded to an L/70 model)

[Raider217]

You'd have either Elefant or Nashorn not both they had same armament and were heavy tank hunters only difference being the Elefant was slower and with more armour