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Offline GamblerSK

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Re: Japenese representation in COH
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2010, 12:49:08 AM »
The Finnish infantry was the Elite, they were the best of the War.


i don't want to say they wasn't good but they wasn't elite,fighting and defending in homeland can give a big advantage and when we take a fact that weather was helping Finnish army then we get a result of why they hold their lines

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Re: Japenese representation in COH
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2010, 01:13:41 AM »
Japan wasn't weak, but their tactics were something to be desired.

They depended on outside resources, their troops were under-trained and had no initiative beyond the famous banzai charge, their navy, while powerful in terms of men, ships and aircraft at the start of the campaign, remained stuck in exactly the same inefficient doctrine as at the start, failing to adapt to the enemy.

The one time they shined was when they managed to kill more Marines than IJA personnel they lost in Iwo Jima. And that was in a defensive action under the command of one of the most amazing military leaders the modern world has ever known.


The weakness of the Japanese was not in the amount of resources they had at the start, but in their inability to make intelligent use of them.

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« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2010, 02:26:37 AM »
and also i think their problem was that they could not adapt to the warfare of the 20th century

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Re: Japenese representation in COH
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2010, 05:47:35 AM »
The Finnish infantry was the Elite, they were the best of the War.


i don't want to say they wasn't good but they wasn't elite,fighting and defending in homeland can give a big advantage and when we take a fact that weather was helping Finnish army then we get a result of why they hold their lines


They were trained to handle those conditions, trained to make used of them. Every soldier was trained to the upmost of the Officers ability - they were the Elite.

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Re: Japenese representation in COH
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2010, 11:46:24 AM »
Really ?

How many ?

One or two tanks?

Medium tank 40M Turan I - 285 or 279
Medium tank 40M Turan II - 139 or 180
Anti-aircraft tank 40M Nimrod - 135
Assault gun 40/43M Zrinyi II - 66
Armoured scout car 39M Csaba & 40M Csaba - 135
Light Tank 38M Toldi I,II,IIA,III - 202.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2010, 11:52:25 AM by UeArtemis »
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Re: Japenese representation in COH
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2010, 12:40:29 PM »
Don't compare Hungary with Romania.

My country has beat them all over the history,but i don't want to prove that now and here.Search an will find the answer.
After austro-hungarian empire,Hungary has been good just for taking beatings from romanians.

They attempted to take Transilvania from us,but never managed to keep it,and will not be capable to do that never.

Romania is old Dacia,and dacians are known for their combat skills,high morale and excellent commanders.Dacians with falxmen has forced the romans to change their armors,because was useless against falx.War between dacians and romans is graven on the column of Traian,from Roma.

Romania always appeared to be weak from outside,and has been underestimated by powerful countries,but proved always to be a big mistake that.Many times Romania has humiliated powerful countries or empires in battles.There are situations with victory for romanains when they had balance of forces one against ten.

Search in history how i suggested you,and will find the answer,and don't suggest insulting comparisons.
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Romanian soldiers during an inspection by King Mihai I of Romania, May 10, 1956.

The Romanian Army gained much from its involvement in the Second World War. While the Romanian Army had been heavily influenced by the French Army in the interbellum years, they began to receive German military equipment during the war against the Soviet Union.

After the Second World War, Romania heavily rebuilt its army with large amounts of modern equipment brought from the Germans. While the Armed Forces was reorganised and retrained by German Wehrmacht advisors.

Especially the armoured forces were modernised. By 1950, most Romanian tank units were equipped with the R-5 tank, which was the Romanian designation for the German Panther II, fitted with a gyrostabilized 88 mm KwK L/71. These were crushingly superior to any Hungarian tank at that time, apart from the T34/88r and the 44M Tas. Other tanks in service at that time were leftovers from the Second World War, such as the T-4 medium tank (Pz.Kpfw. IV) and TACAM R-2, and TAC III (Sturmgeschütz III) self-propelled guns. also present was the Maresal MO-4, a small tank destroyer similar to the Hetzer armed with 75mm Resita M1943 gun and based on captured Soviet T-60 chassis. The army had also been considerably motorised, with the addition of Opel-Blitz trucks, Famo halftracked tractors, Sd.Kfz. 251 halftracks and a few pre-war Malaxa tip UE haulers, which were mainly used to Tow anti-tank guns. in addition, small numbers of the Schutzenpanzerwagen 38(t) Ausf M and the Vollkettenaufklarer 38(t) Katzchen Armoured personnel carriers were used by the Premier formations.

The infantry not been developed much since the end of the Second World War. While new camouflage uniforms had been distributed, most soldiers were still equipped with World War 2 equipment, such as the Dutch M1923/27 helmets and ZB M1924 bolt-action rifles. However, submachineguns were becoming more common among NCOs, and the Orita M1941 was the most common version in use. Some elite units used Stg 44 assault rifles.

In terms of anti-tank weapons, the equipment were predominantly of German origin. Panzerfausts and Panzerschrecks were used on company level, while anti-tank guns such as the 75 mm PaK 40 were distributed at battalion and regiment level.

Artillery was the same as by the end of the war, most of them old Schneider and Škoda howitzers deriving from Austro-Hungary and France, with a few Czechoslovak howitzers from the interbellum period. Large stockpiles of Soviet artillery pieces, captured areas such as Odessa during the Second World War, was available in reserve or in units not yet modernised.

Especially the Forţele Aeriene Regale ale României (Royal Romanian Air Force) were expanded with German military assistance. Large numbers of jet-engined aircraft, mainly the new Ta 183, the two seater Me 262 (used as a Trainer and Nightfighter) and the older IAR 80s and Henschel Hs 129, along with the Hs 132 Jet Dive bomber. This gave the Romanians an immence superiority over the Hungarians.

Despite many advantages with the German military assistance programme, many branches of the military, most notibly the artillery, resisted the german Reforms.
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Re: Japenese representation in COH
« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2010, 05:45:20 PM »
I just answered your question. Moreover, you have told us that Romanian vehicles were of foreign origin. Hungary had own unique vehicles.
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Romanian soldiers during an inspection by King Mihai I of Romania, May 10, 1956.
His Majesty Michael I King of the Romanians ruled until 30 December 1947.
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Re: Japenese representation in COH
« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2010, 06:03:03 PM »
Psihopat, no offense, but patriotic post like yours only pollute such forums. You won't achieve anything by posting such texts and especially you won't make the devs implement Romanian forces in the game at some point later. It is just a WW2 game, in which only major powers are implemented as it is in the most games! Accept it.

Also, as far as I can see, this topic is about implementing Japanese forces in the game, so your posts are off topic.

« Last Edit: February 04, 2010, 06:34:48 PM by orenda »

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Re: Japenese representation in COH
« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2010, 06:08:15 PM »
The Japanese also had good tanks, that were capable to fight against Sherman. But it did not participate in the war. :(
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Re: Japenese representation in COH
« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2010, 06:32:24 PM »
I just answered your question. Moreover, you have told us that Romanian vehicles were of foreign origin. Hungary had own unique vehicles.

About Romania....
Thy had foreign tanks and other weapons..

But you don't know that..it seems...

Last post like that here.
 
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Re: Japenese representation in COH
« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2010, 07:13:40 PM »
Psihopat, maybe you didn't really read UeArtemis' post quite well.

Anyway... Romania's name come from Roman and is related to Roman people when it was part of the Roman empire. But nowadays Romanians don't have anything in common with Romans, many tribes and nations have passed through and settled down in modern Romanian territory. In other words, in your blood flows the genes of Huns, Avars, Bulgars, Pechenges, Cumans. In this case, I don't have any idea why your country is named Romania.

"Don't compare Hungary with Romania. My country has beat them all over the history." > I have always found patriotism like this very entertaining...

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Re: Japenese representation in COH
« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2010, 07:26:50 PM »

You know nothing or very few about my country,and speak just to speak.
Talk less and listen more if you are in unknown terrain.
Let's leave off topic,and not attack each other.Ok ?

About Japonia in eastern front...hmmm...
If is proved to be historical accurate,why not?...otherwise...no...




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Re: Japenese representation in COH
« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2010, 07:41:09 PM »
There are 2 options how is possible to make the Japanese:
  • Japanese with good vehicles in the style of the Wehrmacht and Americans, but not realistic.
  • Japanese with light armoured vehicles what were participated in the battles, in the style of the PE with an admixture of other styles.
I personally can not decide which is better. The second option is more complicated, more realistic.

P.S. orenda: the Romanian language is very similar to Latin. There are other examples of their proximity to the Romans. You rushed to conclusions. (I mean: Your conclusions were premature.)
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Re: Japenese representation in COH
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2010, 09:22:42 PM »
On the topic: I have always wanted to have Sovients and Japanese in CoH, so I prefer the latter than having another German faction. Of course, the devs won't create Japs instead of the Ostheer, so it does not really matter.

By the way, an interesting fact tells that Japanese infantry was using bikes to transport faster around the islands they were capturing. It will be hilarious to have Japanese on bikes in CoH  ;D

Offtopic: @Psihopat, I am not attacking you in anyway, but in almost every topic I check I see your posts telling about Romania during WW2 and how important it was and so on. It is quite irritating, to be honest.

@UeArtemis, many countries speak languages which have Latin roots, but nowadays there is no modern language which is close enough to Latin, even Italian is not that close. We live in globalizing world and people and languages are mixing and everything is changing. I also did a bit of research because it was interesting to me as well to learn more about Romanian languange, so you can check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_language [nofollow].
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Re: Japenese representation in COH
« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2010, 12:49:26 PM »

Romania ^_^
So Dacia are called as Romania, because its people speak the Romance language, they are one of the few people in the East, who still speaks in the Romance language.

So let's not argue.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2010, 01:00:04 PM by UeArtemis »
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