Patch 1.03 WHAT HAVE YOU DONE...

[xenotype]

Zerstrorer what about the inaccuracy of the 76's gun ingame?

[UltimateTobi]

All right Red Banner Strelky weren't nerfed like you say, they're just bugged because I can't get them to get any LMGs or PPSH upgrades after 200 muni upgrade.

just that, huh? I  think I`ll rest from gaming for a while...
Too much stress

You have a serious problem if you have too much stress because of a mod which is a bit bugged atm.
Post Merge: January 31, 2010, 09:22:18 PM

russians are not playable atm. just if you want to lose.
i change to axis side again und played against russians. never won so easy before. sadly, the russians wasnt so weak in ww2. 
playing with russians atm is similar going to a domina and get punished.

Russians weren't strong, they were masses.

[Bauer]

T34 is a better tank then Pz4. Especially with 85mm gun.
Panzer IV was developed in late 1930s, and was`nt until 1943 did he get the long 75mm KwK 40 L/43 gun, but it was still weaker in armor then T34.
For the sake of the balance this will never be honored but some basics in history are required, after all THIS IS A WW2 game.
salvage wrecks remains.

Do you want to compare the PZ IV and T-34/76? There have been many versions of these machines. PZ IV F2 and later versions have more firepower than the T-34/76, armor these versions could be compared because the Russian steel was weak, the German armor was not the appropriate angle. T-34 was faster but PZ IV have more accurate.Let no one compares  the Panthers to T34/85. Panthers were better.

[Zerstörer]

Zerstrorer what about the inaccuracy of the 76's gun ingame?

We want to keep it that way...it was always intended as a feature, we may adjust the cost somewhat more though

[Capt. Malashenko]

Let no one compares  the Panthers to T34/85. Panthers were better.

Panthers were - PzIV`s were not.

[Bauer]

Let no one compares  the Panthers to T34/85. Panthers were better.

Panthers were - PzIV`s were not.

Are comparable. I know a game in which children should play. Combat Mission 2.There, no one cried that there is no balance.

[Zerstörer]

Ok, we have had our fun with the whole historical non patch related chat, but this is a balance thread.
So either keep game balance discussion or post in the appropriate section for that stuff.

Cheers

[Bauer]

This is a discussion on the balance. Balance is not just whether the game is balanced but also how it is balanced. You can give Russia T-34 to destroy the tiger or PZ II to destroy the IS-2. But it would a bad balance for this game.

I think I was clear enough. Historical arguments do not affect balance. Keep it like that or use the 'Other discussions' thread for this kind of discussions

[xenotype]

I think he is trying to say that historical considerations should enter into balance, with an example that you could have a T34 be able to kill a tiger and have it balanced within the game, but it wouldn't make any sense.

[Bauer]

I think he is trying to say that historical considerations should enter into balance, with an example that you could have a T34 be able to kill a tiger and have it balanced within the game, but it wouldn't make any sense.

Thx I from poland and i dont speak english soo good.

[Bjassie]

Part of this is because not all the changes were implemented....its hardly the last patch...we're releasing the proper one later today so you need to get alot more games on that one

Then we back to russians OP

Perhaps the soviets are not OP and it is just you that is using the wrong tactics. You sound like a wehermacht/PE fanboy that wants he's tanks to be the strongest. First look at both parts of the story and then suggest something. I mean its nearly balanced there are still some small issues. but it is going in the right direction.

The only thing I hope for is that the problem with the recrewing will be solved so that the soviets can recrew their weapons. 

[Razz]

I agree with Capt.

Now the USSR can't even take half the map.  Too weak.

Complete and utter waste of my time.

All this nerfing doesn't compensate for the lack of securing and re-crewing.

Those are big disadvantages.

And now they want to go off and make the Istheer, which will even be a stronger faction.

[hgghg4]

Between two good players the balance is just fine...they have this almost perfect, just a few more things (I play both sides but I have been trying to win as Wehr lately with 1.03 its 1:1 right now)

[WartyX]

And now they want to go off and make the Istheer, which will even be a stronger faction.

And where are you getting this information? Oh yeah, just assumptions. Stop trying to make your opinions into facts.

[Zerstörer]

You were quite happy to play 1.00 of utter OPness without complaint but as soon as we get the nerf bat out everyone starts crying cause they can't wipe the floor with an opponent...typical...

On another note...yes Soviets are be a bit UP at the moment but this IS a consious decision I've taken. This is because its easier to have a faction that is UP slowly turned into a better balanced faction rather than an OP one slowly turning into a balanced one, hence the hard initial nerfings!

No one really wants to play vs a blatantly OP faction, however, like PE at the moment alot of people will play with and against them. (unlike say brits and the roo spam)

Rather than the OP rubbish remarks, you guys should add valid feedback based on games/replays that will really help us balance the faction better.

'Waste of my time!', 'I'm uninstalling the mod because of the patch' blah blah blah and the like, neither help nor are they taken seriously in any way shape or form.