11 points to balance russians

[Iglooman]

There is time before being able to use it again. Snipers are 2 and cost 360 (around) mp which is a lot and they are weak.  Then ammo with soviets is for upgrades => 100 ammo for getting arty. This is the soviet gameplay. 

[Bauer]

Snipers ar OP and soviet gameplay is good only for soviets. 100 ammo? and cost for use this. 100 ammo i can get easy without opserwtion points. 100 ammo? one mg 42 for gerns is cost 75, stg 44 cost 75, 1 grenade cost 25-50. lol every one paying a lot but rossians no free art free nades global upgrades for 100-300 ammo. harge at start, super mortars, easy to get tanks, that is fucked up gameplay for WH and PE oponent whos paying a lot for everything.

[Iglooman]

100 ammo + russians can't make observation post + long time reloading + easy to kill snipers + sniper cost 360 mp + 1 sniper less= can't call arty + can't retreat. Seriously, if it is your only problem, it is not that hard to counter it.
The only thing i would change for the sniper as I said before is to make this arty being like US arty and not brit arty.

Any other think "op" to your mind? 

[Bauer]

easy to kill snipers-not so esy in mass of red army. their 2 for 360 but they easy kiling 1 sniper for 340.
russians can't make observation post- but they still have need ammo only for global upgrades

[moonblood]

if you blobspam these flamer engis you need 50 munition each upgrade too
 

[Bauer]

Only WH players crying becouse only they see its unbalanced. The Allies did not want to see it.

[Razz]

Bauer, how many games have you played with or with out Russians ?

[Leving]

I dont understand why people are asking for such Russian nerfs? Its really hard to play as Russians at the moment, the first 11 suggestions would just make playing as Russian even more difficult.

Also I like that there is a faction able to stand up to the Germans late game, if they can get there...that is.

[Bauer]

Bauer, how many games have you played with or with out Russians ?

~80?

[Kette]

some suggestions by me:

1. increase T34-costs to 800 / 300
2. remove all rifles from su-infantry
3. the su-mortar should only can shoot with ugly smell grenades
4. the su-pak just needs a fire-area of 10°, so change it

sry ,just kidding. please, no changes in future. let the mod die. i become grey hair if playing with sowjets.

[mystic-eye]

Bauer, how many games have you played with or with out Russians ?

~80?

Bauer, who are you playing against? Seriously. My clanmates and I have been playing both USSR and Wehr against each other for awhile now and it only took 3 games for the wehr players to figure out how to stop the "OP soviets" cold in their tracks. Currently the only truly OP thing about the russian units is the unfamiliarity, and the lack of experience playing verses them to develop axis strategies that beat them...period.

The same arguments came out with opposing fronts new units, but with a few tweaks on relic's end, and 1000's and 1000's of games played (not 80 for fuck sake) some VERY viable strategies and new unit combinations have created balance without completely destroying the faction's unique qualities (as you would see done with the soviet faction).

I dunno dude, maybe go play checkers. Checkers is pretty balanced right now, although I read somewhere that the red pieces are developing free arty...

[Panzerjager]

Russians are not OP, I did a game about 4 days ago were it was a vp game on berlin and my team was all wehr and we fought against 2 people playing US and 2 Soviet Union. We were pushed back to our bases and one guy tank trapped 2 of our strum armorys. We made an epic comeback with only 100 points left. Saved the replay afterwards

[BurroDiablo]

some suggestions by me:

1. increase T34-costs to 800 / 300
2. remove all rifles from su-infantry
3. the su-mortar should only can shoot with ugly smell grenades
4. the su-pak just needs a fire-area of 10°, so change it

sry ,just kidding. please, no changes in future. let the mod die. i become grey hair if playing with sowjets.

Serious, Helpful discussion, or gtfo and don't post at all.

[HeNeArKrXeRn]

IMO the biggest issue is that soviet infnatry can't use an empty AT-Cannons, its annoying as hell since you have to pay 275mp for a new one and bring it all the way to the frontline. The problem is worse since the enemy can just take the canon right in front of you eyes...

[Bauer]

Is another solution. The Russians may have observers with radio.