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Soviet machine gun
« on: January 26, 2010, 04:28:38 PM »
« Last Edit: February 01, 2010, 09:44:26 PM by Savatiy »

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Re: Soviet machine gun
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2010, 05:04:59 PM »
Maybe a mobile HMG should replace MG Dugout, it already costs 3pop, and it would be a nice change since no one is building MG Dugout`s . ..
« Last Edit: January 26, 2010, 06:26:09 PM by Capt. Malashenko »

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Re: Soviet machine gun
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2010, 07:50:52 PM »
no MG for the soviets, please stop that!

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Re: Soviet machine gun
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2010, 08:32:39 PM »
I agree. All factions need those kind of defences. And soviets early defences suffer from this, as the MGs are very important in the begining!

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Re: Soviet machine gun
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2010, 09:03:33 PM »
What about "Maxim"?

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Re: Soviet machine gun
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2010, 10:30:20 PM »
not portable enough this game in general does not like to take that into account like how the heavy mortar needed to be wheeled and was a pain on rough ground, towed, or broken into 4 parts. The DS-39 on the other hand is rape damage wise compared ALL the infantry Mg's in the game. The PE are the same way though they do not have machine guns at all and even the FlaKvierling gets pwned so easily while the mg bunker does not get killed so easily. They both have strong inf early game pretty well matched in the end, a 3 man gewhr squad is overmatched by matched against 2 conscript squads a lot of the time and their starting resource is MUCH lower as well as Soviet infantry rush ability is crazy early game once the heroic charge comes up.

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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2010, 10:54:37 PM »
2 conscripts = 400mp.

quite a bit more than 255mp for Pgs.  You probably didnt count the command squad in there too.

Pgs IMO rape conscripts.

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Re: Soviet machine gun
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2010, 11:12:12 PM »
I agree. All factions need those kind of defences.

The difference would be that the Maxim could'nt take cover in a building, first.
Then it would be like an AT gun (ans as slow as it). And it could be a reward unit who would replace the doctrine's MG Nest?

(Sorry if my english is bad)
« Last Edit: January 27, 2010, 12:55:47 PM by Laufer.fr »

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Re: Soviet machine gun
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2010, 11:34:17 PM »
its called the T-90 people

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Re: Soviet machine gun
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2010, 12:29:33 AM »
the soviets DO NOT need an early mg that isnt doctrinal.  the PE dont have one because they are an agressive faction, and it works fine.  its the same thing with the russians. if you really want to bunker down go the doctrine that allows it.  the t90 also suppress after a bit.

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Re: Soviet machine gun
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2010, 05:26:07 AM »
the soviets DO NOT need an early mg that isnt doctrinal.  the PE dont have one because they are an agressive faction, and it works fine.  its the same thing with the russians. if you really want to bunker down go the doctrine that allows it.  the t90 also suppress after a bit.
Basically what I was trying to say thanks

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Re: Soviet machine gun
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2010, 11:15:18 AM »
Use the T-90. Rush it into enemy infantry, suppress, and let the Strelkys and mortars deal with them.

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Re: Soviet machine gun
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2010, 03:00:27 PM »
I already made this comment a while back you could have just went through the "suggestion" area and found it

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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2010, 08:32:32 PM »
Or maybe just give them the option to steal heavy mgs?

Problem solved, if they are foolish enough to lose them to conscripts in the early game and they remain intact then they should be able to use them.

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Re: Soviet machine gun
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2010, 10:08:01 PM »
agreed... the Russians cant capture any object, no mortar, mg, At's, accept guns like MG42s ,panzershreks,  etc...