IS-2 OP!!!

[cts321]

the germans are still indestructible we just need manuvers like han solo when he listed to the left to avoid the star destroyers what we need to do is

1.get there equal example a t34/80 is equal to a panzer iv the is-2 = panther
2.get more there units cost about the same just get 1 more
3.get the equal vet the t34 has vet 2 so we need that to beat them
4.the last thing use manuverse even moving to there sides can cause them to get outmanuvered they don't seem to be able to hit while moving

[Capt. Malashenko]

"HOLY CRAP!!! IS-2!!! We have to aim for it first!!!"

Xaxaaa, when I choose Breakthrough Strategy I usually take Tank Riders + 2 T-90`s as mechanised patrol, and use Conscripts to find week spots in Axis defenses to rush through. They can have as many Panthers and KT`s as they want, but they can`t make it  everywhere

1.get there equal example a t34/80 is equal is a panzer iv the is-2 = panther

Hardly, IS-2 is better against inf and paks then Panther, but Panther is faster, I really can`t compere those two

[hgghg4]

im a tank whore I won't lie... even in VCoH I will use tanks more often then not (Shermans(USA), CROMWELLS(I hate roos), P4s(Wehr) and Panthers(PE))

[cts321]

"HOLY CRAP!!! IS-2!!! We have to aim for it first!!!"

Xaxaaa, when I choose Breakthrough Strategy I usually take Tank Riders + 2 T-90`s as mechanised patrol, and use Conscripts to find week spots in Axis defenses to rush through. They can have as many Panthers and KT`s as they want, but they can`t make it  everywhere

1.get there equal example a t34/80 is equal is a panzer iv the is-2 = panther

Hardly, IS-2 is better against inf and paks then Panther, but Panther is faster, I really can`t compere those two

i told you to use that speed and to outnumber

[Capt. Malashenko]

I was referring to IS-2 = Panther, IS-2 is heavy tank and Panther medium, they can`t be equal in any aspect, and using Tank Hunters is more thankful, they`ll rip any tank a part. 

[hgghg4]

I think that tank hunters should have great effectiveness against light armor but do nothing against heavy armor

[cts321]

I was referring to IS-2 = Panther, IS-2 is heavy tank and Panther medium, they can`t be equal in any aspect, and using Tank Hunters is more thankful, they`ll rip any tank a part.

all heavy tanks can crush tank traps panthers can and it says they are heavy tanks you are thinking of the panzer IV

[Capt. Malashenko]

If I`m not mistaken, panther was considered by Germans as medium, while Tigers and Jagdh`s were heavy.
See for your self under >type<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panther_tank [nofollow]

Edit: But, you`r right, it has heavy crush, but that still doesn`t make it comparable to IS-2.

[hgghg4]

The IS2 was just plain big...

[Capt. Malashenko]

I think that tank hunters should have great effectiveness against light armor but do nothing against heavy armor

True, Tank hunters are too strong against every vehicle and building, and yes, IS-2 like`s making an entry 

[cts321]

If I`m not mistaken, panther was considered by Germans as medium, while Tigers and Jagdh`s were heavy.
See for your self under >type<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panther_tank [nofollow]

Edit: But, you`r right, it has heavy crush, but that still doesn`t make it comparable to IS-2.

The Panther tank was a compromise of various requirements. While sharing essentially the same engine as the Tiger I tank, it had better frontal armor, better gun penetration, was lighter overall and thus faster, and could handle rough terrain better than the Tigers. The tradeoff was weaker side armor; the Panther proved to be deadly in open country and shooting from long range, but vulnerable to close-quarters combat
its combat capabilities led directly to the introduction of heavier Allied tanks such as the IS-2 and the M26 Pershing into the war
it may as well be a heavy tank

[Capt. Malashenko]

If you kept reading you would find out why it was referd as "medium" even if his weight was well over weight of Allied medium tanks, IS-2 and M26 appeared after the Allies realized they need bigger shell`s nad more explosive  against fortifications and infantry as well as higher armor penetration witch came as bonus.

[cts321]

i know but it caused 3 entire armies to build vehicals to combat them they had shaped warfare to the point the is-2 was made it caused the russins to realize they couldn't win with numbers it cause heavy tanks to be 70ton steel monters so powerful nobody dare apose them

[Zerstörer]

At 400 less hitpoints...you better learn to use those ISs with more care  ...

[w00tm0ng3r]

i know but it caused 3 entire armies to build vehicals to combat them they had shaped warfare to the point the is-2 was made it caused the russins to realize they couldn't win with numbers it cause heavy tanks to be 70ton steel monters so powerful nobody dare apose them

And both the panther and tiger were built as a direct result of how overwhelmingly superior the t34 was to anything the Germans had on the field in 1941. That still doesn't make the t34 a heavy tank.

At 400 less hitpoints...you better learn to use those ISs with more care  ...

WAIT WHAT!?!?!?! I didn't see that in the changelog... What was it before and what is it now?