IS-2 OP!!!

[firefree]

I understand this tank is "beast" with thick armor and one of the largest guns in the game HOWEVER, in playing a game the other day with my brother we as the Germans had 2 panthers a jagdpanther with attack2 and def1 and my bro had a Tiger with full vet and 2 squads of full attack vet PE gren with 8+ AT. Ok... so we were fighting 3 IS-2 tanks and tired to target them one at a time... result... NOT ONE IS-2 died and we lost every tank and my inf had to retreat!
Post Merge: January 24, 2010, 04:36:41 PMOk replying to my own post but I forgot to make a possible balance suggestion. Perhaps some changes to the damage the IS-2 takes... the biggest issue I see that the damn thing doesn't die. Plus a limit on how many of these monsters can be on the field my be a good idea. I have seen as many as 5 at a time really that is like the germans having 5 tigers on the field!

[Capt. Malashenko]

so just asking, you had 2 Panthers+Jagdpanther+Tiger+infantry Vs 3 IS-2? And you lost? Do you still have a replay?

[danny]

2 panthers owns my IS-2... and u couldnt destroy 3 IS-2 WITH GERMAN MIGHTY ARMY?! MAN ... u suck more than I do...

[Zerstörer]

2 Panthers win against 1 IS-2 yes but, that's not how its supposed to be...
The IS has been adjusted for the next patch

[firefree]

wish I had the replay but I don't think I saved it. The biggest issue is that the IS-2 doesn't take much damage. The panzershrek teams seem to be more effective but at one point in the same game I had 3 full vet PE teams with 8+ damage fire 4 times each into rear armor and the IS-2 still had enough life to crawl away! The problem then was his sniper ace started shooting up my inf and I had to run too.

[Iglooman]

OMG stop, what do you want? Killing the IS 2 in one shot.

I have killed a IS 2 with a Panther just by micro so man, try to improve your skill before crying et saying that it is op.

Give us replays (not particularly of that game) and try to play Soviet Union against good wehr opponents.

[Capt. Malashenko]

I really can`t understand why so many people have difficulty playing against the Soviets? And calling every unit OP?But I agree on one, IS-2 is a heavy tank and it should have some limits in numbers deployed. Spamming IS-2 became  a wide practice...

[firefree]

Mr Iglooman,

I am not saying they cannot be killed. I have killed many! The problem is they move faster than most german tanks and are just as deadly, plus their armor seems WAY better. Like I said before. Post a replay of your conquests with your magic panther, because I have not seen that be affective and yet I mirco too bro everyone does. That is not the issue. Just played a game right now where again my ally had the King tiger and shells were bouncing off the IS-2 I used anti tank nades, and had 3 squads of panzershrek teams with 8+ attack hit it 4 times THEN I had my marder come from behind and FINALLY kill the damn thing.

[Capt. Malashenko]

2 PaK`s + inf for distraction, that all i need to kill IS-2...

[Iglooman]

"I had my marder come from behind and FINALLY kill the damn thing."

Understood? You have to flank in order to win. The IS2 is not fast at all, it is not slow too but a panther is faster and can flank it in a 1vs1.

[Zerstörer]

Right, don't keep stressing about the IS-2...it's been tweaked. Shreks. If you're used to late game WH armour dominating...get over it...

No matter how many hitpoints the IS has an AT Halftrack will still immobilize it and you can pound it to death with a sighted marder

[Capt. Malashenko]

Too many people got used that German tanks are indestructible, and now it sucks for them when they encounter Soviet tanks with same approach. Get use to it, IS-2 is not Sherman or Churchill and you can`t destroy it that easily.
@Zerstorer: you reminded me on a game when I deployed 2 Su-100 and IS-2, but run into a well placed minefield, all tanks immobilized and slaughtered by 1 PaK and some Shrecks, ahh, good game dough ...

[hgghg4]

I lol'd at this thread because I enjoy the challenge of 3 IS-2s in a tank battle, I hate to say it but this mod has increased infantry spam BUT the Armor spam has gotten even more makes my CoH dreams come true

[Capt. Malashenko]

Candy for the Panzers, xa? I love the Soviets, gameplay is definitely a pleasant surprise, I`m just sorry not many people use T-70/90, they are very useful and fast, but most players just save fuel for IS-2, not even T-34 made it`s "grand" appearance, a pity really...

[hgghg4]

I generally use 3-4 T-34s with an IS-2 in support, the T34s flank while the IS2 take the brunt of the damage, people think "HOLY CRAP!!! IS-2!!! We have to aim for it first!!!" While the T-34s are running around shooting you in the ass :p