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Re: Soviets vs Allies too please! make it possible please!
« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2010, 03:10:14 PM »
I think that the Russians should not be able to fight with the Allies against Germany.
Propably the next game of relic will be pong, but i'm not sure if they would be able to balance the sides.


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Re: Soviets vs Allies too please! make it possible please!
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2010, 04:50:39 PM »
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Would you call Avatar successful if it made 100million, no. The amount of downloads you have achieved do not come close to the quality of the actual product.

I can't actually believe that you are saying that the world's statstically most popular CoH mod is unsuccessful because it doesn't match up with Avatar or an actual product. We aren't aiming to earn £200m. No, we just wanted thousands of people to try out our work, and that happened. We have held the prestigious 'number one' spot in ModDB for weeks now, still steaming ahead of the Mod of the Year Award winners. Success.


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no mention by Relic of it yet in game or yet on their website.

Try again, we have been mentioned more than once on community.companyofheroesgame.com
Additonally, it isn't Relic's job to announce every mod that gets released, Relic aren't Valve, who cherish and nurture all modmakers.

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I just saw in game that you actually boast about the brits defending stalingrad and the soviets taking normandy and then have the hide to say mirror matches are stupid lol

And Soviets in Normandy is a mirror match how?

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Re: Soviets vs Allies too please! make it possible please!
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2010, 05:39:55 PM »
No, he's digging at us for saying the Mirror Match idea is stupid because its historically inaccurate when the mod is already inaccurate

Unfortunately, he misses the point. The Soviets helping at Normandy or the Americans being in Stalingrad doesn't affect balance one iota, whereas having the Soviets to fight on both sides would affect balance quite considerably.

This is not an alternate history mod, stop trying to persuade us to turn it into one. No matter how many time this is suggested the answer will remain the same... no fucking way.
Americnans and Brits in stalingrad i is a real? Soviets in normandy must be real to.  :-X Americnas defeating germans on moscow is historical  :P

Who said anything about the mod being real or historical? We know there are fallacies in the mod historically, the fact we want to keep the Brits and Americans in and add the Soviets is one of them. Sure, this makes the mod obscure, but putting them on the Axis side would make the mod even more obscure... we need to draw the line on how obscure we want this mod to be and putting the Soviets on the Axis side is crossing that line quite a bit. Soviets, Brits and Americans fought on the same side though, that is a historical fact, and although they didn't fight side by side, they are on the correct side.

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You are just the artist from what I understand, a decision that has the potential to make the entire mod a success should really be decided by the leader/group, not the artist in the forum saying "no fucking way".

Yep, the Leader/group... of which you are part of neither.

This idea would not make the mod a success, it would make the mod a Joke. Successful idea's, sure, the Leader/Group can decide these. But retarded idea's get me coming around to explain how retarded they are. You can see by the Poll how mega successful this idea is... a 60% NO vote.

Actually, the last choice isn't possible, so its more like a 75% NO vote.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2010, 11:51:19 AM by BurroDiablo »

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Re: Soviets vs Allies too please! make it possible please!
« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2010, 06:06:29 PM »
No, he's digging at us for saying the Mirror Match idea is stupid because its historically inaccurate when the mod is already inaccurate

Unfortunately, he misses the point. The Soviets helping at Normandy or the Americans being in Stalingrad doesn't affect balance one iota, whereas having the Soviets to fight on both sides would affect balance quite considerably.

This is not an alternate history mod, stop trying to persuade us to turn it into one. No matter how many time this is suggested the answer will remain the same... no fucking way.
Americnans and Brits in stalingrad i is a real? Soviets in normandy must be real to.  :-X Americnas defeating germans on moscow is historical  :P

Who said anything about the mod being real or historical? We know there are fallacies in the mod historically, the fact we want to keep the Brits and Americans in and add the Soviets is one of them. Sure, this makes the mod obscure, but putting them on the Axis side would make the mod even more obscure... we need to draw the line on how obscure we want this mod to be and putting the Soviets on the Axis side is crossing that line quite a bit. Soviets, Brits and Americans fought on the same side though, that is a historical fact, and although they didn't fight side by side, they are on the correct side.

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You are just the artist from what I understand, a decision that has the potential to make the entire mod a success should really be decided by the leader/group, not the artist in the forum saying "no fucking way".

Yep, the Leader/group... of which you are part of neither.

This idea would not make the mod a success, it would make the mod a Joke. Successful idea's, sure, the Leader/Group can decide these. But retarded idea's get me coming around to explain how retarded they are. You can see by the Poll how mega successful this idea is... a 60% NO vote.

Very weak arguments
Propably the next game of relic will be pong, but i'm not sure if they would be able to balance the sides.


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Re: Soviets vs Allies too please! make it possible please!
« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2010, 06:08:12 PM »
And saying "Very weak arguments" makes you Win obviously...

Either debate or don't. Posting meaningless shit just moves this thread ever closer to getting locked.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2010, 06:11:39 PM by BurroDiablo »

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Re: Soviets vs Allies too please! make it possible please!
« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2010, 06:16:55 PM »
And saying "Very weak arguments" makes you Win obviously...

Either debate or don't. Posting meaningless shit just moves this thread ever closer to getting locked.

You will not find good arguments to justify the fact that Russians are fighting alongside the Allies. (Russians were not better than the Germans, that they were on the same side of the conflict is just a tragic coincidence)
Propably the next game of relic will be pong, but i'm not sure if they would be able to balance the sides.


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Re: Soviets vs Allies too please! make it possible please!
« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2010, 06:56:36 PM »
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You will not find good arguments to justify the fact that Russians are fighting alongside the Allies. (Russians were not better than the Germans, that they were on the same side of the conflict is just a tragic coincidence)

Good enough argument: they Soviets were on the same side as the Western Allies, they were both fighting the Germans and they didn't tend shoot each other on sight. The war was full of tragic coincidences. Doesn't mean we can't put them into the mod.

And just because you don't agree with a developer doesn't mean he has a weak arguement. I have yet to see a positive to having the Soviets fight alongside the Germans. Locking thread, it isn't going to go any further than a big fat official 'No' from the developers.

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Re: Soviets vs Allies too please! make it possible please!
« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2010, 07:15:55 PM »
Ultimately...it simply ain't gonna happen, end of story!! If you don't like it...tough shit
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