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Offline machz

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Re: russian tanks
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2010, 12:11:01 AM »
i would rather suggest removing the t 70, and replacing it with a armored car equivalent

i mean, the british have the stuart which can serve as an ac
pe also have an ac
us have an ac
and lastly so do wehr.

or just lower the health on the t 70, and make it somewhat a reasonable cost as an armored car, and probably the same with the t 90.

and possibly, make some sort of upgrade from the tank hall that lets you build the is2 and su. like a  simple 100 mp and 20 fuel lets u have access to su and is2, but make the upgrade take some time to complete. wehr or pe are not gonna get a panther out in 10 mins, and an is2 shouldnt be an exception to that

other than that t34 unupgraded is pretty fine as is, a medium fighting tank similar to the p4

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« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2010, 12:27:35 AM »
Problem with the T70 is not with its cost, just that when the tank hall comes out after 100 fuel its usually better to go for a t34.  Problem with the t34/76 is that it cant hit ANYTHING even at point blank range.

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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2010, 01:06:14 AM »
I feal it is my duty to protect the little ones :)
T-90 is phenomenal against PE light vehicles and all but the most elite infantry, it is a unit I value more then some other heavier vehicles.
Try using two of them together and you`ll see what I mean.
T-70, however, is less effective, but it is fast and good in recon and against fortifications, it`s damage and penetration have to rectify ASAP, cozz for a 45mm gun it`s damage even against the lightest vehicles sucks, but you have to love them when they start running around the field in frenzy :)

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Re: russian tanks
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2010, 02:49:16 AM »
Ja I think the T70 and T 90 could have the armor upgraded slightly.
At least give the T70 a little more Hard Attack value.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2010, 06:50:37 AM by Razz »

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Re: russian tanks
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2010, 03:26:16 AM »
How about a T-70 accuracy buff?

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« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2010, 03:46:46 AM »
More like T-70 damage buff, accuracy is fine,
or maybe some critical ability, like thread-breaker on AT halftrack, only now it`s disabling the main canon instead of tracks, 45mm could do that at point blank...

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Re: russian tanks
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2010, 12:05:02 PM »
I think the russians don't need any further abilities. They picked the best from all factions allready

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« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2010, 02:39:57 PM »
Picked the best and payed highly for it.

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Re: russian tanks
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2010, 07:15:47 PM »
i suppose the issue i have with russian tanks is that a t34 can come out somewhere around the 7 - 8 min mark if the russian holds atleat half of the map (or 2 of the fuels on langres) which isnt exactly a bad thing, but considering its the standard tank for the russians, an armored car like the t 90 or t 70 should be out at this point in the game, with the t34 up somewhere around the 10 - 15 min mark

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Re: russian tanks
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2010, 08:33:18 PM »
lol The best one! lol :D

whats next the fuel cost of each vehicle is based on how many miles per gallon it gets?

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Re: russian tanks
« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2010, 08:42:06 PM »
Actually I was wrong, T70 can be useful against PE. It is a sort of armored car. It is fine like it is right now. :)

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Re: russian tanks
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2010, 08:50:27 PM »
T-70 have no LMG, and its almost useless vs infantry. And his 45mm is too weak vs german tanks (it appeares when germans already have tanks).
And it could not capture points...
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Re: russian tanks
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2010, 08:56:57 PM »
Problem with the t34/76 is that it cant hit ANYTHING even at point blank range.

+1.

And this is why the T-34 is not OP. All in all it is well rounded: terrible against infantry but good for handling Pumas and Halftracks, can go toe-to-toe with P4 (but will usually lose unless supported), and can be easily countered with Paks, StuGs, or shreks. It does what it was designed to, be good in numbers.

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« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2010, 04:11:13 AM »
Imo they should replace the T70 with BA10/11.  Faster armored car armed with same gun but less armor.

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« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2010, 07:49:01 AM »
im just going to get right to the point.
tanks, especially the t34 are too good for how much they cost. not just the individual price but how much it takes to acquire tanks.
for example. from the start of the game to having 1 sherman on the field takes 245 fuel if just get the barracks supply yard and tank depot. also shermans are worse in every respect and each unit costs more. for the germans if they get panzer 4s as fast as possible (no wehr quarters no krieg barracks NO NOTHING) it takes 265 fuel and once again each unit cost more. the soviets only need 175 fuel to get a t34 on the field and each t34 is 15 fuel and 120 manpower less than a sherman and 5 fuel 110 manpower less than a panzer 4.

my problem isnt with the price of each unit so much as the cost to get there. if each t34 is so cheap it needs to cost considerably more to field your first one especially considering the t34 has about 10% more health and a gun (with 300 munitions) that does 25% more damage than the sherman and p4.


Huh.. i was thinking that the soviet tanks were way too expensive and underpowered. I mean, wasnt the main point of the soviets beating the germans that there tanks were cheaper and were mass produced?


You are right. They correct way to respond to your point is gameplay balance. Not actual WW2. 88 would take out those US\Brit shermans and M26's in 1 shot if realism was what were were after.