Idea: Foreign Troop Barracks

[HyperSniper999]

This is just an idea that would differentiate the Ostheer from the "western" Wehrmacht. My proposal is a building where you can train a series of non-German soldiers, it would go as followed from worst to best unit.
Anti-Communist Squad: 230 MP, A squad of volunteers ranging from France and deep into the Soviet Union consisting of anti-Communists who have sympathized with the Germans. They are poorly trained but are experts at stealth and sabotage. Most of them have little to do with the Germans; it is the common hated of Bolshevism that bonds these men together to volunteer for the Ostheer. They should be used as cannon fodder and little more.
Italian Alpini (Mountain Troops): MP 290. Italy's best soldiers have been sent to the eastern front. They are very well trasined although not for the Siberian steppes, but they still are harsh fighters.
Finish Sniper: MP 560, only can have one at a time. A counter to the Soviet Sniper Ace, his man has a lot of hatred against the Soviets and many years of practice in the Winter War has given this man a deadly aimed, although he shouldn't be sqaundered by being thrown into a pitched gunfight. He can also plant explosives and look through binoculars.

[250.Inf. Div.]

is a good idea,but dont forguet of spaniards

[ford_prefect]

and Romanina

[HyperSniper999]

Perhaps they would be thrown into the anti-Communist squad.

[Saavedra]

Anti-Communist squads should be infiltrators with poor weapons, and grief-causing weapons like flamenades and anti-building grenades.

Italian troops would have fire-up and maybe use satchels.

Finnish troops should be squads of riflemen with crazy accuracy (so you want to use them defensively, which is what they mostly did, and crazily well). Ambush would probably be a must, and giving them the option of upgrading with a LMG42 would be nice.

Spaniards could be a mix of anti-Communists and Fins. Very good at combat, somewhat more difficult to suppress than most other troops in the game, and nice assault options like grenades or suppressing fire. Basically, a squad good at assaulting, the opposite of Fins. Could be upgraded with MP40s.



Basically, a mix of units you can put together according to your taste and needs. Need defensive power? Fins and Spaniards. Wanna try infiltration? Anti-Communists and any of the assault squads (Italians and Spaniards). Assault? Same as before.

[250.Inf. Div.]

posible skins use this unifons photos

the first photo is a spaniards group in heer and the second is a spaniards waffen ss uniforn.

[CommissarGears]

the Fins and Romanians i can see in the Ostheer, but im ignorant about the Itallian and Spanish participation in World War 2, i wasnt aware the Spanish and Itallians fought against the Russians on the eastern front.

[Ohmega]

Franco gave the Blue Division, and the Italians... well... "helped" just like the Romanians in giving way for the 6th Armee to be surrounded.

As for the foreign volunteers, can't overlook the Norwegians who comprised a significant force for SS-Gebirgsjager units, especially in Finland.

[Saavedra]

and the Italians... well... "helped" just like the Romanians in giving way for the 6th Armee to be surrounded.

They couldn´t do shit about it. Read "Stalingrad" by Antony Beevor. The Romanians had two obsolete AT guns to cover a front of dozens of kilometers when the Russians attacked with dozens of tanks and hundreds of men. Just like the rest of the German Army, they were abandoned completely by Hitler´s insanity about imaginary reinforcements.

[Ohmega]

They couldn´t do shit about it. Read "Stalingrad" by Antony Beevor. The Romanians had two obsolete AT guns to cover a front of dozens of kilometers when the Russians attacked with dozens of tanks and hundreds of men. Just like the rest of the German Army, they were abandoned completely by Hitler´s insanity about imaginary reinforcements.

I prefer The Fall of Berlin 1945 myself. Never said Romanians/Italians/Green People from Planet 49 could hold the Soviet attack. Just pointing out that it wasn't the Romanians alone (who in fairness never wanted to go east of Odessa) in allowing Operation Uranus to succeed.

As for the Spaniards, would there be a distinguishing between the Blue Division and the Falangists who made up the Blue Legion?

[Saavedra]

As for the Spaniards, would there be a distinguishing between the Blue Division and the Falangists who made up the Blue Legion?

If you mean a visual distinction, I don´t think so. It seems both units wore Wehrmacht uniforms with a few Spanish-looking patches.

So, take Grenadiers and Volks and put some Spanish insignia on them, and you are done.

[ford_prefect]

that's just crap! I'd rather have some new Romanians that look nice and pretty than slap a little star on the voks!

[tigerclawstyle]

Hungarians, Romanians, Croatians, Bulgaria, Italians and the Finnish all contributed to Barbarossa.

The Finnish first fought the Soviets, then the Germans. Their ski troops were quite elite. Everyone talks about Vasily Zaytsev and how he was the best sniper of the war, but a Finnish soldier actually had more kills. Around 500 if I recall correctly, and he used no scope on his rifle.

Hungarians and Romanians were pretty much forced by Hitler to send troops, but the Italians sent some of their best troops to the front. They were elite mountain infantry, and were sadly used on battlefields with no mountains.

Waffen SS actively recruited Croatians, and they sent a "legion" to the front.

Didn't know about the Spanish, pretty interesting.

Definitely be very cool to see some special units representing other countries in the future.

[Tankobite]

Just want to say, I'd love to have the Spaniards in the game since I reenact with them.  I would say that they might be too small to be in the game, plus most of them were pulled out by Franco when the fortunes of war changed.  Still it'd be awesome. 

One thing I would say, is have them be equipped with PPSH instead of MP40s.  From what I've read, they actually had a firebrigade that was equipped with those.

As for uniforms,  its obviously too small of a detail for the game, but they were notorious for lax standards compared to the Germans and wearing their blue shirt collars on the outside of the tunic.

[ford_prefect]

yeah and thats IT! That means that the DEVS would just slap a shiney new star on the Volks give them even worse stats and send them off to the front! I'd rather see some new Romanians in this mod (it's a lot better than just putting a star on the volks)