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Offline Zamiel

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Re: Panzer Elite Strategies.
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2010, 06:30:54 AM »
what do u do if they just spam enginers? and go straight for tanks?

That's the million dollar question Fallen and regrettably you can do nothing.  Wehr has a fighting chance against the Ingenery flame spam, but PE will always get obliterated by it if the Sov player knows what they are doing.  The strats posted here are all pretty good though, mostly.  Except for the people saying that PE is excellent against Sov, because 1v1 it's not.  If it is supported by Wehr, than they can bring some useful things to the table, but they can do nothing on their own.

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Re: Panzer Elite Strategies.
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2010, 06:33:50 AM »
what do u do if they just spam enginers? and go straight for tanks?

Die. Until a patch.

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Re: Panzer Elite Strategies.
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2010, 08:21:25 AM »
Duh  PE Tank Destroyer of course.  :P

IT"S THE SOVIETS!!!  just get those Tank busters in teams of 2 and hiding behind buildings and not in them.  T-34's mow down buildings as well.

Arm all squads with schrecks.

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Re: Panzer Elite Strategies.
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2010, 01:58:13 PM »
until now i only had a lil chance to stand against them with tankbuster doctrine (early game) and scorched earth (late game) in combination with a good WM-player.
But 1vs1 y're down and out before you get somewhere in a doctrine tree: 2 sqds with doubble PS are ok vs T34; 2 sqds with single PS: forget it. The T34 blows half of yr sqd away with 1 shot, 2 PS aren't enough to get it down.
Before you have marders (watch the fuel need to built 1) they capped 75% of the map and there goes yr fuel....

No serious: PE vs Soviet is a slaugtherhouse-game for PE

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Re: Panzer Elite Strategies.
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2010, 02:29:06 PM »
G43 Squads RAPE Soviet earlygame Infantry. Just get like 3 g43 squads and vet them with offensive vet - it's like 1 shot 1 kill :)

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« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2010, 07:26:10 PM »
until now i only had a lil chance to stand against them with tankbuster doctrine (early game) and scorched earth (late game) in combination with a good WM-player.
But 1vs1 y're down and out before you get somewhere in a doctrine tree: 2 sqds with doubble PS are ok vs T34; 2 sqds with single PS: forget it. The T34 blows half of yr sqd away with 1 shot, 2 PS aren't enough to get it down.
Before you have marders (watch the fuel need to built 1) they capped 75% of the map and there goes yr fuel....

No serious: PE vs Soviet is a slaugtherhouse-game for PE

TB seems to work on some maps. Ok try this.

PE>LUFTWAFFE DOC>2 LUFT TEAMs> Capture CP's that snake line to Fuel CPS> build VFlak to guard those Fuel CPS > Keep luft teams close to VFLak (incase they get artied early on)> Adjust the rest to taste

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Re: Panzer Elite Strategies.
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2010, 12:04:42 AM »
cover vs cover PE infantry rapes conscripts. Much more than if both were on an open field.
I had 2 luftwaffe squads fending off 3 or 4 conscript squads in the trenches of kursk. Only one of mine died and he has to pull back after almost all his conscripts were dead.

The only problem is that damn command squad. Not only can he charge and call in free arty strikes, but he can one-shot Pgrens and luftwaffe in green cover while he himself stands in the open O_o

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Re: Panzer Elite Strategies.
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2010, 03:56:02 PM »
the problem isn't the conscripts but the command sqd with their arty: they wait till the arty is ready, come closer and even before you can hit them from behind yr cover, they throw u some arty in yr neck

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Re: Panzer Elite Strategies.
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2010, 12:26:57 AM »
If you are playing PE, the last thing you should have is immobile units. You donĀ“t use HMGs or mortars, so none of your units should be caught in an artillery barrage.


The worst thing arty-wise I have faced as PE is heavy mortars which, if they get the drop on you, can obliterate whole squads in one shot. That one shot can kill you completely if it hits the bullseye.

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Re: Panzer Elite Strategies.
« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2010, 02:27:58 AM »
Just as a theory, but if you are picking the PE, go for the scorched earth doctrine. Make your way to the hummel and grab the super tank barrier (it will only be able to be destroyed with explosives). Pick a narrow path, lay down the tank barrier, and have your hummels in range soo that any russain units that are going down the path will get obliterated. Now for the tanks (fear the Is-2 and the IS-152) the Russians have I figure using the At halftrack or upgrade the Panzer greandier with the Panzershreck. Its an idea. Haven't tested it yet.
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Re: Panzer Elite Strategies.
« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2010, 04:30:21 AM »
G43 Squads RAPE Soviet earlygame Infantry. Just get like 3 g43 squads and vet them with offensive vet - it's like 1 shot 1 kill :)
yeah I noticed that when playing my friend on a THREE FREAKIN hour battle

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Re: Panzer Elite Strategies.
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2010, 02:58:56 PM »
Rush an assortment of panzer grenadiers equipped with a variety of weapons and all upgrades.

G43s for long/medium range
StG44 for close range
Shreck for AT


Just watch out for Katyushas, Snipers, and Morats

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« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2010, 06:03:49 PM »
I got done playing as the PE against the Soviet Union on the map Lyon (it was an AI, not a computer) I went for the ammo, building Panzer-grenadiers and capturing points as fast as i could.I picked tank destoyer and went quickly to get Hetzers on the field. after a few skirmishes with level two Russian units and a command group, i got control over three of the major bridges. i upgraded a couple of my Panzer grenadier with the Panzershreck and G-43s. I sent two units of Grenadiers on the right most bridge, and capture their ammo site. With a Hetzer, I destroyed most of their buildings. i sent a second in to help destroy the Hq, but then the Ai spammed on the Ingerys. they sent Conscripts into my land using the open bridge. i manage to get 4Cp by the two hetzers just mowing down the Ingergy to get the Jagdpanther. I left the game because i was just tired, so the best advice is to prevent the Russians getting to you, and then send a team of armored units to harass their HQ.
No one can stop the German panzer divisions.

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Re: Panzer Elite Strategies.
« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2010, 10:55:47 AM »
against ISU-152 or IS-2 you only need one ATHT and one Marder...

tread-breaker -> ISU-152 get a Marder behind it and kill it without any problems
tread-breaker -> IS-2 and shoot it with a Marder (Marders have a higher range than IS-2s)

and against inf use off vet G43.... 5 squads with 4 man and some upgrades will slay the soviets down
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Re: Panzer Elite Strategies.
« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2010, 05:38:22 PM »
Frustrating against the soviets with PE. I had played two matches with my friend and this was the results:
1. I went to straight to MP44-s, I pushed back his commie ass back, until the AA tanks rolled out, and killed most of my men, dominated the map. In this point you haven't really much anti tank units, that really effective to the most tanks. Frankly, the AA tank destroyes the AT Halftrack, and laughing as it's do.

2. Went to Halftracks. There was a large infantry blob, and lost of the HTs. A P4 comed Handy, but that time, my opponent got T34/84's and I got a headache.

So, I think its a bit unbalanced for PE, I'll wait for the next patch, and play as Wehrmacht.
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