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Offline Fivestargeneral

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I think the AI just got better...
« on: January 22, 2010, 08:14:27 AM »
Somehow I felt that the AI jut got smarter in EF. This applies to non-Soviet units, such as Wehr and PE as well.

For e.g. the Wehr AI spams less of the same units, and are capable of building combined units more often now. And PE has built a bergertiger for the first time, lol! Seldom see them do that previously.

As for Soviets, was it the T-34 tank or sth... took out my base defenses first before rushing troops in...well done. And arty the Mg42s to unsuppress their troops.

Improvement for the AI i suppose...

Offline thebomb

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Re: I think the AI just got better...
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2010, 08:17:48 AM »
Developers created an advanced AI with the mod - it definitely is awesome.

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Re: I think the AI just got better...
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2010, 08:21:56 AM »
However is the advanced AI only in EF? What I noticed was if you quit EF and launch the normal COH (w/o EF), then the AI seems to return to its normal self.

Does the advanced AI only take effect when playing in EF?

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Re: I think the AI just got better...
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2010, 08:23:11 AM »
Yeah only in EF

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Re: I think the AI just got better...
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2010, 01:35:05 PM »
I totally agree with you all, the AI is truly a challenge. The three games I have played (not enough by today's standards) and have been thoroughly beaten back to my base each time.

Being beaten back to my base, I don't mean by spammed units but combined arms, like the first post said, and flanking maneuvers of volks and mobile units. It looks grand when my outposts of a few units and one vehicle are suddenly overwhelmed by a tank and two units of volks or grenadiers.

I certainly applaud the AI coder on their handy work. 

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Re: I think the AI just got better...
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2010, 02:44:34 PM »
Yes, that's true.

WE have knocked me down completely yesterday - variety of units, stukas, artillery, the way of movement... It will be a challenge :-D

I hope (and truly believe it), that the USSR AI is same, or even better! :-]
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Re: I think the AI just got better...
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2010, 03:34:19 PM »
The Soviet AI is really tough too, I was playing as Panzer Elite and got completely smashed by them. Not that thats particularly unusual for PE  :P

Aye, whoever did the new AI really did a great job, skirmish is a whole new game now haha

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Re: I think the AI just got better...
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2010, 04:07:59 PM »
What difficulty are you guys using?  Hard or Expert?  Expert has always been almost impossible to beat in the Opposing Fronts.

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Re: I think the AI just got better...
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2010, 04:29:33 PM »
Normal because I'm awful at CoH  ;D

Offline John Grimm

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Re: I think the AI just got better...
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2010, 04:31:01 PM »
I played three skirmishes yesterday on Normal and was getting absolutely destroyed playing the Soviets.

AI needs a nerf :(

Seriously, I hardly ever play online matches in CoH so not being able to play against a suitable AI really sucks.

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Re: I think the AI just got better...
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2010, 04:32:39 PM »
Try CPU Easy then. We have given AI a big difficulty boost.

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Re: I think the AI just got better...
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2010, 04:35:35 PM »
Just dont try and play against Soviets with PE, being my long suffering favorite faction I've yet to find a way to win in 1v1. Marders seem to hold them off for a while, but by then its usually too late.

Any ideas guys?

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Re: I think the AI just got better...
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2010, 06:22:35 PM »
I played three skirmishes yesterday on Normal and was getting absolutely destroyed playing the Soviets.

AI needs a nerf :(

Seriously, I hardly ever play online matches in CoH so not being able to play against a suitable AI really sucks.

Don't agree at least in the one skirmish I have played so far.  I played a 1v1 vs. Normal Russian.  I was Wehr.  Map was the Snow map.  For the first half of the game, I was getting killed.  I tried to hold the 16 fuel in the center but no chance.  I was pushed all the way back into my base and had essentially no map control.  At this point I was about to give up.  However, the AI essentially totally fell apart at this point.  Instead of coming in and finishing me off, all the AI did was build Katushya rocket trucks and try to shell my base.  The AI built like 20 of these.  I was able to destroy them all, call in a Tiger, and slowly regain the entire map back.   The AI got stuck.  Instead of building some T-34's and IS-2's and wiping me, it didnt.   Not sure if this happened to anyone else.






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Re: I think the AI just got better...
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2010, 06:33:31 PM »
The exact same thing happened to me more or less, but in a 2v2, seems like if the AI chooses the propaganda doctrine all it wants to build are lots of Katyushas and T-34's.

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Re: I think the AI just got better...
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2010, 12:05:05 AM »
ya i noticed this too. i can no longer easily defeat a expert comp. i have to play normal ones now :p