Russian MOtars Op

[Soul.j]

The russian motars are firing too qucikly.
with so greater dammage, takes 5 short for defensive bunker to go down, Mgs with one or two shot, there is no way  you can MG mount an defensive, since building troops is an waste, motar kills volks and grendier squards just as quick,
i tryed axist motar to counter motar, yet the range of axist motar is not suppior as i thought it would be, but the russians could HIt from even more further.
Impossible to advance, since russians had soo many man siting next to their heavy motar, i try building fast t3.
by the time i have nerb. in a 2v2, one of them has already got an T-35. an joke fest.

we need to Tune down those motars, either fire slower, and also have shorter rannge, or just have it costing 20 - 30 minution. also those artierly from the russian commander squards.
 

[AznDamon]

Aw c'mon, I love those mortars! It feels good blowing entire squads of grenadiers. I actually blew up a whole squad of them with a Guard grenade.

[WhiteFlash]

the morter is OP, if you dont see that you havent played coh before.  It needs to be less accurate and fire slower if it has howie shell, otherwise just change the shell back to normal morter.

[JM396]

Another idea is to limit the number of heavy mortars the russain can control. Just played a 2v2 against the commies and they pretty much make axis infantry useless.

[BrandenburgKommando]

To be honest through out the mortar all together and replace it with the Bm-37 give it a high rate of fire but low range or vice versa that way it is a small caliber like all the other mortars.

[Fivestargeneral]

Yes I agree that the mortars are OP. Feels more like a 25lb howitzer 

[Voop_Bakon]

Meh its not that bad. Just get up to the soviet inf and youll see. It kills them more than it kills you due to low soviet survivability.

Just keep your troops moving like you would with a regular mortar

[Shadowmetroid]

Heh, more of my own troops died to my mortars than the Wehrmact did.  Get up close, and our troops catch friendly fire.  It makes defenses a nightmare.

It does need a longer time in between shots though.

[GermanSteel]

Soviet Mortars aren't recrewable. Hit them once with... anything, and it's 325 manpower down the drain.

[KlausTrofoby]

Soviet Mortars aren't recrewable. Hit them once with... anything, and it's 325 manpower down the drain.

Hit a wehr/us sniper with anything and 340 mp down the drain... doesn't really makes sense what you say

[Soul.j]

More troops die from ur motars fair enough if u want to send your own troops into your own barrage . Who to balame . And nobody uses free artliery units that fires such great barrage . And still be used as an assult unit.  Ok let's compare Stuka . Good range weak against tanks . Nerbs good for pinging . And some dammage . Heroic charge means walking away from it then comes those massive off map free motar barrage. Any mg or motar units will die intantly. Worse then one second arty . But defensive arty cost 125 munitions for same effect but only to be used on resource points not any where u want and free. Have all tech from munitions dosent mean u deserve so much free powerful arty . That means axist officer deserve same treatment top? Or all axist upgrades cost fuel a lot of fuel . Dose it mean they get free oil barrels fly from the sky? To burn down any thing in it's way . Russian motars right now makes avre churchill tank a joke . Paying for every shot it fires with the same but slower Russian dammage . Russian motars aldo makes build stuh a joke .   

[Saavedra]

Maybe it would be a good idea to make mortars work as emplacements, British style? That way, they are powerful but not able to move everywhere to apply that power.

[CerealKiller]

They already work like emplacements, they cant retreat so its not so hard to hunt them down, i think the issue is that they cost only 325 manpower, and they basically have the power of a 105 howitzer. ex 550 man and 30 ammo would be more fair, and they should have the same range as american mortars.

Katyusha should also be more expensive and maybe have higher command points.

[Rikard Blixt]

I'd say increase the spread a lot and it will be a lot better.

[Soul.j]

increase the spread of what?
MGs or man
, i did
but the mOtar is so accurate, it shots one short kills 3 man, as axist you just cant simply recrew it again and agian, there is no other ways to defeat it either, you either have to charge your guys accross. AT light infantry or.. huge army squard. adn a reinforce base they have..
german motars no longer have range advatage, its dammage is no where close, and it dosent kill the russian motar, because that howie motar will destory everything in its path. in a short armound of time, with out having to recharge.