Italians

[BATTERIES]

Italians should be a call in unit in the game for 1 cp.5 men with poor accuracy curcano rifles but make up for it in abilities and survivability.(Cost 280 mp)

Firstly their negative attributes ,

1. When ordered to move/attack they do as commanded 50% of the time (this adds realism and tactical aspect to italian troop managment)

2. When fired upon they immediatly retreat 75% of the time and 25% of the time they hold position get surrounded and destroyed (encourages troop preservation and intelligent use of positioning)

Now the positives

1. Have the fastest retreat speed of any unit.

2. Can use "make espresso" ability for 2 fuel and 1 munition , this allows italian unit to make espresso's which gives boost to surrounding units allowing faster retreat speeds to all other axis infantry for 15 seconds. (again adds realism because in reality every italian soldier was issued an espresso pot , and caffeine boost would allow faster running.)

3. Cheap.

4. Look slightly like conscripts so could confuse the slower soviet players , also donkies can roam randomly around the map after their arrival (donkey models already made by relic reducing workload)



I think we all agree this is a viable unit for realism and filling a niche in retreat bonus.

Then for a further 2 cp the powerful italian armour can be called to the field. Costing 350 mp and 40 fuel this beast will strike fear into its russian adversaries,



Again negatives first

1. Due to harsh weather conditions and italian engineering the tankette will become imbolized on 75% of movement orders (allowing effective static defence).

2. Its fragility means that one anti tank rifle round could penetrate the entire vehicle but its tendency to explode destroys the chassis and ends any attempts by devious russians to capture or salvage this fine piece of italian weaponry (in further updates).

Now the postitives

1. ...?   

2.The tankette itself and its wreck can add to battlefield scenery possibly distracting allied players for a few seconds.

The italian army is a must add for this mod for the cool units shown above and their great fighting spirit.

Winston Churchill said of the italians , We had them as allies in ww1 so it is ONLY fair that the germans have them as allies this time around.

This proves the italians should be in the mod in all their glory!

[WartyX]

Took me a while to work out whether you were being serious or not.

[BATTERIES]

The italians should not be doubted for their fighting prowess.

[Gew00n]

I lol'd

[Venoxxis]

Then for a further 2 cp the powerful italian armour can be called to the field. Costing 350 mp and 40 fuel this beast will strike fear into its russian adversaries,

What the hell is that?
a soviet stell monster would just roll over it.

-> for all and the same reason the italians dont really seem
to have something special which could fit it. expect the papa, this beast will strike fear in the hearts of the russians.



nah man, other countrys are a good idea, but they simply dont fit, because they have nothing to counter a soviet attack.

[luz777]

Haha, nice post.

Whats the difference between Bread and Italians...

Scroll --> You can turn bread into soldiers 

Nah, in all seriousness Italy being useless was alot to do with the economy not being ready for war, the machinery being crap, and the people not being die-hard fascists. Not necessarily the soldiers themselves.

Cheers

[BATTERIES]

Italy was an excellent ally be quiet! 





See mussolini and sum italian soldier like the idea...so plz INCLUDE ITALY PLZ !1!!1!

[CommissarGears]

First the Russians have the advantage of the IS-2 and NOW they have the advantage of fighting Itallians!

HOW OVERPOWERED DO YOU WANT THE RUSSIANS TO BE

[RobBob]

Making an italian faction would be a weird idea, mainly beacause of balance. But you could put the Alpini (italian mountain troops who also fought in russia) as an infantry unit.


They could use weapons like MAB 38 smgs and Carcano 91/38 rifles. ( newbielink:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAB_38 [nonactive])

MAB 38 was a very good weapon, but never reached the amount of German MP40s because of production issues.

Italians were not bad soldiers. In fact, Alpini were special mountain units, but they were sent with mountain equipment in a plain region against tanks and mechanised infantry (which aren't typical enemies of the battleground where they used to fight  )

You could put them as a basic infantry unit good vs infantry, but uneffective against vehicles. Maybe an upgrade could be the providing of MAB 38, or something like that.

[nbeerbower]

First the Russians have the advantage of the IS-2 and NOW they have the advantage of fighting Itallians!

HOW OVERPOWERED DO YOU WANT THE RUSSIANS TO BE

IS-2 really isn't that great, calm down.

[BATTERIES]

Im surprised how many people here love italian cock...

[luz777]

...where did willys come into this 

Warning: we only stray onto that kind of subject when Apex's voice is mentioned...

 

[Loupblanc]

 Batteries : I am in awe. If I didn't know better, I would
 swear you were me on a 2nd account... Same type of
 humor
 
 Robob : Yea, nice proposal.
 
 Well, it's entertaining to say the least

[CommissarGears]

First the Russians have the advantage of the IS-2 and NOW they have the advantage of fighting Itallians!

HOW OVERPOWERED DO YOU WANT THE RUSSIANS TO BE

IS-2 really isn't that great, calm down.

oh the irony!

[GeneralSatan]

wow