Eastern Front News #04.12.2009

[Rikard Blixt]

but why some of the upgrades are named in translit (Russian words are written in English alphabet)? was it made on purpose?

We wanted to give the Soviet faction a 'Russian flavour' while still being readable to non-Russians. This theme reccurs throughout most of the mod.

Further comment on this is that we do like relic did for the German Factions, it's called eg. "Volksgrenadiers" and "Panzergrenadier", not "People's Infantry" and "Mechanized Infantry".

[Loupblanc]

 Svelky, etc...
 Yea 'People infantry' and 'Mechanized Infantry' just...
 doesn't 'FEEL' german, now, does it?

 I'm all for trans-lit. I love it, actually.
 Actually, I want more of it. Lol.

 The update/video is pure awesomeness. Release the damn
 thing already! *Rattles the bars of cage* ROAAARRRRR.

 - SU85 with cage? Typo, surely?
 Should be T34/85, not SU85. SU85 isn't for anti-infantry
 work.

[ford_prefect]

(Rattles the bars of cage)
god man where the hell is this institution they keeping you? The guards probably have to cover up their ears to stop the screaming of "add Finland ah!!!!!!!!"

[Voop_Bakon]

- SU85 with cage? Typo, surely?
 Should be T34/85, not SU85. SU85 isn't for anti-infantry
 work.

All the more reason to give it to them. If SU-85 cant do much against infantry, it will be good to have a way to stay alive longer if its it caught alone against a shrek squad

[Loupblanc]

 SU85s in the video eat the Panthers for lunch :p Worrysome.
 T34's are the one to tangle with infantry, they're the ones
 who got the cages. I saw plenty of pics of T34's with cages,
 not a single one with SU85's. They're the sorta equivalent
 of armored skirts on German tanks

 - SU85's should have something they're vulnerable to
 It's like giving M10s anti-infantry armor, but not giving it
 to Shermans... it's like... meh?

 : Oh god, yea, I scream it all day long, at the top of my
 lungs, 'ADD FINLAND AHH!!!!' they put me in a straight
 jacket, as I kept biting, scratching and kicking the guards

 I can still type here, though, when they're not looking.
 I'm using the ripped-off arm of a guard I keep hidden for
 extra-reach out my cell and unto the jail director's laptop

[40oz]

very nice! but.. dont mean to be bitch but why arent we seeing any of the new german units/docs and upgrades? With all these seemingly, incredibly powerful russian units; i cant help but think that the axis will keep getting roled over no matter what... Will the Russians be like the new Brits, where werhmacht needs t4 or pio spam to beat?... or will all these cool russian units coming with some degree of balance?

[WartyX]

It is balanced.

[Loupblanc]

 Incredibly powerful russian units?
 Well, so far russians seem to be the shittiest at early game.
 Units don't gain in vet (It's fixed and built in). Some important
 flaws (especially T34/76), and they don't have a way to OP
 points (PE style Zis6 trucks should be used, methinks)

 The trick is to kick their asses early, or they'll roll over you.
 Americans got to play thus vs Wehr. Wehr got to play thus
 vs Soviets. PE vs Soviets ought to be pretty brutal.

 - As for new german units, OSTHEER is where it'll be at!
 *NO - CHANGE - TO - VANILLA - UNITS* Meh

 As for balance... no point doing this if there's no balance.
 

 ... Still want an explanation why skirts on SU85?

[sudifo]

i don't wanna be a jerk or something.but what is holding this mod up?and is it true that the mod will be released this year?

[BurroDiablo]

i don't wanna be a jerk or something.but what is holding this mod up?

Maybe due to the fact its a mod... we make this in our spre time, and some of us have very little...

nd is it true that the mod will be released this year?

Anything is possible, but don't hold your breath...

[luz777]

I would imagine theres springs on the SU-85 to give it some defense against infantry, as its got no MG

[ford_prefect]

"PE vs Soviets ought to be pretty brutal"
yup that's why I'm letting my friend be Soviets first while I will be PE it's kind of like the best German infantry VS. the cheapest allied units

[Celution]

I am concered about the amount of munitions the soviets need ingame. i think it's more reasonable if you make that it costs manpower and munitions, and the T34/85, just like the 76mm Sherman upgrade manpower and fuel.

Right now it is somewhat strange and unbalanced I think.

[Apex]

Remember that this is the only expenditure for munitions the soviets have. There are no squad upgrades (except mine detectors), and use-abilities and doctrine-abilities are only restricted by cooldown and cost no munitions.

[Loupblanc]

 Hmm, SU85 is the soviet Marder. And it's got NO anti IF
 anything (skirts, machine gun, anything) it's like twice the
 cost of a SU85 in cost and it's got less armor...

 Ok, it's got veterancy, where the SU85 has none, still...
 
 I was wondering, though. Why does T34/76 have like -1
 vet (weak vision, etc) and SU85 doesn't have any vision
 problems? Should be an intermediary step. I can't see SU85
 coming out before T34/76 :p