Guard Infantry

[BurroDiablo]

So, by your logic it's pointless having the T-34 because it can be bested by a Panther? KCH don't tear up the Guards from what i've tested and there certainly hasn't been any complaints to say otherwise.

Stelky can be upgraded to have Ppshs, DP-28s and another special something (I won't say what) making them awesome close-combat troops. If that doesn't make them viable in your eyes, tough shizzles.

[Voop_Bakon]

I hate you so much. The one bit of info we get, and its only described as "a special something" 

Update soon...ish..... maybe??

[Loupblanc]

You assume wrong - it is very difficult to get Guards fast. You get them around the same time that the Wehrmacht gets Knights' Cross Holders (which can rip Guards to shreds).

Besides, Guard will still get badly hurt by running headlong into MG fire, regardless of supression.

 - Warty said that both 6 pop weight elite infantry would
 come out at same time and that Guards got ripped to
 shreds He's a dev So I must believe him
 - As for the T34 vs Panther, again, it's a tech/pop weight
 issue. The Panther is 12 pop, and it's optimized vs tank
 combat, thus weak vs Infantry. The T34 is more like a
 sherman or Pz4. All purpose. 8 pop weight. The /85
 upgrade makes it into a Sherman76, kinda. But here the
 difference seems to end.

 Sherman can get vet. Improving it considerably vs
 Panther (although it will still lose in 1 on 1, but it *IS*
 8 pop vs 12 pop).

 I'm saying like it's useless to throw tons of jeeps at
 a panther, yknow?

[ford_prefect]

Holy crap. Loupblanc youve learned how to post. Keep it up.

I gave him a E-cookie

[Loupblanc]

 Y'know... this just ain't right. Them are the soviets damn it.
 How about you guys add a 2xT34(Whatever+2 guard call in
 or something? Once all the buildings are in place. Perhaps
 needs an upgrade. Some like the 2x Panther call-in from the
 PEs.

 Also, I saw nothing about improved economics, or resiliency.
 Soviets could take massive losses and jump right back in.

 PE has it (all doctrines), USA has it (infantry). Most have
 a super-unit (tank) call-in. Why not a T34 call-in? One
 (or two) is nice. Even better. Make it a 1 unit call-in earlier
 on, and change it to 2x later as an extra upgrade. That'd
 help make the soviet tank fleet bigger faster.
 
 (Soviets don't have a build tank fast upgrade either) :p

 Thoughts, anyone?

[Fhurion]

Not a terrible idea Loup, but we're getting a little off topic. Throw your tank/econ bonus idea into the "Suggestions" ring, although I question at this stage if it'll have much traction.

Back to the point at hand...

Burro I love the sound of Strelky as it looks like they'll be a pretty gritty unit. As for the Guards though, is my guess accurate? A toughened up Rangers squad with no anti-armor but better close-combat?

[Loupblanc]

 Well I did say 2x T34 + guards... so... technically...
 As for close-in... no. SVT40's are like PE's GE43. They're
 long-ranged quasi snipers.

 - And I did put it in suggestions, already.
 I think it fits soviets well enough for them to have it.
 Not only others ought to have thing like that :p