moblie 88

[ford_prefect]

The info I put in about the 88mm on a half track came from a book I have, It was under anti amour and the book said it was a Flak 18.

Well it would be cool to have one. And I don't think the devs  have started to make the ostheer

[Loupblanc]

The idea with the horses or tractive unit don't really fit into CoH.
Just a few arguments against:

•What happens when the vehicle gets destroyed or the horses get killed?
 : They vanish into pixel dust?

•It's very unlikely the DEVs are able to do an animation for that. I don't want to doubt the leetness of the DEV-crew, but I think it's rather difficult if not impossible to create such an anim.
 : Make them with no animation Just wooden static
 horses in front of the carriage Then find a way to work
 on it. Could be awesome side-project. Then work on dogs
 Awesome vs Snipers or Soviet anti-tank dog packs!
 : Impossible? They said animating T34 was impossible!

•It just doesn't fit into EF, because EF wants to be an inofficial expansion. Therefore, it would be a bit odd when only the Ostheer has a basic ability like towing their guns to vehicles.
 : Only soviets have 0 pop infantry.
 : Only british have AMERICAN 105mm Priest
 (Which fucked up their ammo procurement)
 : Only germans have UNIQUE LIFE units (KT/JP)
 : Only british have captains (Now that'S weird)
 : Only american have paratroopers
 (Germans pop out of buildings and british come from
 gliders. I meant actual parachutes) Isn't that odd?
 : Only americans hav
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 : Only american have paratroopers
 (Germans pop out of buildings and british come from
 gliders. I meant actual parachutes) Isn't that odd?
 : Only americans have callioppe (It's a T34 Soviet weapon)
 (Before you say Katyusha, its a T34 system!!!)

 ... Why can't soviets use that?
 Or have flamethrower KV8, T34O, etc?

 : Why do soviets have KV2 when it was completely
 phased out by 1944?
(Gimme KV85!!)
(I know, no point because of SU85, T34/85, IS2/122
 and conscripts

[ford_prefect]

The idea with the horses or tractive unit don't really fit into CoH.
Just a few arguments against:

•What happens when the vehicle gets destroyed or the horses get killed?
 : They vanish into pixel dust?

•It's very unlikely the DEVs are able to do an animation for that. I don't want to doubt the leetness of the DEV-crew, but I think it's rather difficult if not impossible to create such an anim.
 : Make them with no animation Just wooden static
 horses in front of the carriage Then find a way to work
 on it. Could be awesome side-project. Then work on dogs
 Awesome vs Snipers or Soviet anti-tank dog packs!
 : Impossible? They said animating T34 was impossible!

•It just doesn't fit into EF, because EF wants to be an inofficial expansion. Therefore, it would be a bit odd when only the Ostheer has a basic ability like towing their guns to vehicles.
 : Only soviets have 0 pop infantry.
 : Only british have AMERICAN 105mm Priest
 (Which fucked up their ammo procurement)
 : Only germans have UNIQUE LIFE units (KT/JP)
 : Only british have captains (Now that'S weird)
 : Only american have paratroopers
 (Germans pop out of buildings and british come from
 gliders. I meant actual parachutes) Isn't that odd?
 : Only americans hav
Post Merge: November 08, 2009, 05:27:23 AM
 : Only american have paratroopers
 (Germans pop out of buildings and british come from
 gliders. I meant actual parachutes) Isn't that odd?
 : Only americans have callioppe (It's a T34 Soviet weapon)
 (Before you say Katyusha, its a T34 system!!!)

 ... Why can't soviets use that?
 Or have flamethrower KV8, T34O, etc?

 : Why do soviets have KV2 when it was completely
 phased out by 1944?
(Gimme KV85!!)
(I know, no point because of SU85, T34/85, IS2/122
 and conscripts

good god.......................I last checked 3 hours ago and you have gone on every recent post and threw a wall at every recent post.
I could counter HALF of these arguments but............I have other things to do and I'd get done in about 2 hours XD

[Loupblanc]

 They were part humor, part challenging the person.
 Throw in some ideas, not just be a nay-sayer.
 You say you could counter half my arguments? Then do so!
  I dare ya!

 : Dead horses. Plenty of dead cow/horses on some maps.
 : Pixel dust works too. Dead soldiers vanish after awhile.
 : Impossible to model... false. Proven so. Just hasn't been
 done - yet!
 : Saying not to do something with one army because no
 other armies can't do it... is... ... hmm, yknow, The british
 are the only ones who use mobile buildings/trucks...

  What's wrong with giving OstHeer an ability no one else
 has, as LONG as it is balanced with other factors, and fits
 within an overall theme other than 'Be OP, do everything,
 with no flaws whatsoever'... nej?

[Loupblanc]

 - Well, every faction/doctrine needs something OP to
 give them flavor. I'd LOVE for americans to have mobile,
 yet slow 105mm Howis. At worse, I wish I could abandon
 them. Not have to artillery my own units to get pop back:p
 
 But that's not going to happen anytime soon.
 I've played codename panzers (mobile artillery)(Not the SPG)
 the actual artilleries. 88 too. Same with Men of War.
 Mobile artillery. I like that we can move AT57/PAK37 a lot.

 88 is big, yes. But it moves in those. Just throw in some
 maluses to make it balanced?
 
 *
 Oh god, no. I don't want ISU152 and IS2 to be overpowered.
 I just don't want the IS2 to be a panther, and the ISU152
 to be a Jagpanther?

 I'd just want the IS2 to be a Pershing. With bad optics
 (T34/76 flavor) and slow-ass reloading (As per history).
 (Strong but slow) rather than copying the panther?
 Maybe accuracy too.

 The ISU152... is a lot more than a Jagpanther.
 Play Man of War, etc, you'll see what I mean.
 Poor optics, awesome armor, godly strike, shit poor reloading.
 The 1940 version of T34 has poor reloading too, but that
 was fixed in the subsequent versions (I heard they changed
 the turret to the 1943 version, I believe?)

 I was thinking longer-ranged AVRE with AP thrown into
 it's HE. And similar to IS maluses (The reloading speed and
 far from pin-point accuracy. StuH is a good example here.

 I don't want overpowered, not at all.
 On the contrary, I'm afraid IS2 will be overpowered, myself.

[WartyX]

Our IS-2 is not a 'copied' Panther.

And also, Loupblanc, please stop posting in columns. Fill in the whole box like everybody else does, or I will start deleting your posts.

[ford_prefect]

Our IS-2 is not a 'copied' Panther.

And also, Loupblanc, please stop posting in columns. Fill in the whole box like everybody else does, or I will start deleting your posts.

lol!

[Michael Wittman]

if the horse die, can be take by medics (Medic Bunker)¿?

so in the future the horse will be a Granadier.

That Would Be Awesome! 

[BurroDiablo]

We could make a Butchers bunker... he runs out with a 12 gauge and puts the horse out of its misery... then your men fight better due to increased meat rations.

[WartyX]

nom nom nom

[ford_prefect]

nom nom nom

lol

[Voop_Bakon]

We could make a Butchers bunker... he runs out with a 12 gauge and puts the horse out of its misery... then your men fight better due to increased meat rations.

Best idea ever

[Loupblanc]

 Hmm, you guys are crazy
 But, look at things positively. It would certainly bring
 something new to the game, wouldn't it?

 When can the DEVs start working on this?

[ford_prefect]

Hmm, you guys are crazy
 But, look at things positively. It would certainly bring
 something new to the game, wouldn't it?

 When can the DEVs start working on this?

its called sarcasim

[Loupblanc]

 : I was being sarcastic myself 
 : Hmm, as for my long posts. You post 3x 4x more than I do,
 and there is at least a reply from you in EVERY thread there
 is. So, please...
 : Your quoting my long ass posts while only adding a line
 of your own constitutes spam more than my own posts,
 as it also brings nothing constructive :p