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Offline henri dud

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Light Vehicles 4 Russia
« on: October 24, 2009, 04:20:11 AM »
Shouldnt there b a motorpool 4 Russia so they can build Half Tracks and n light vehicles n stuff?

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Re: Light Vehicles 4 Russia
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2009, 04:39:46 AM »
WHY is every one wrighting in gangster!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Light Vehicles 4 Russia
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2009, 04:44:38 AM »
Why is Ford_Prefect using excessive exclamation marks?

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Shouldnt there b a motorpool 4 Russia so they can build Half Tracks and n light vehicles n stuff?

No, there shouldn't. They're powerful enough without them.

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Re: Light Vehicles 4 Russia
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2009, 04:50:50 AM »
But the motorpool gives them a bit flexibility. From what Ive seen, Russian faction is all brute force and little flexbility.

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Re: Light Vehicles 4 Russia
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2009, 05:27:18 AM »
Flexibility is there, but its down to the individual player to make use of it... you can be as tactical or as brainless as you want to be. The Soviets have pretty much everything they need, we've had no complaints during the Beta about the lack of light vehicles. Extra light vehicles would add nothing except extra balance issues (and we have enough of those at the moment).

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Re: Light Vehicles 4 Russia
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2009, 10:01:15 AM »
Dont they have that truck with like a billion missiles on the back? Does that come from the tank hall?
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Re: Light Vehicles 4 Russia
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2009, 04:50:45 PM »
The Katyusha rocket launcher is available through the Propaganda War Strategy tree.

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Re: Light Vehicles 4 Russia
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2009, 11:40:59 AM »

 Katyusha has 16 rockets.
 Callioppe has 32 rockets.
 Hardly a billion. Shouldn't complain when Callioppe has
 twice as many ;) Hmm?

 I vote for Katyusha being limited to 6 though? :)
 1 callioppe = 2 katyusha.
 Callioppe has armor, AND machine-gun. AND is more
 compact. / Comparing it to a Priest, then. And saying 6?
 
 It'd be nice for Stuka-HT to be limited to 6 as well,
 but, meh. I'll go roll over some fool krauts while driving
 my Pershing leisurely, now ;)
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Re: Light Vehicles 4 Russia
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2009, 04:51:15 PM »
Katyusha is currently limited to 3

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Re: Light Vehicles 4 Russia
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2009, 09:30:12 PM »
Speaking of Katyusha's, any chance we can see the effect of just 1 firing. If i remember, all the current vids have at least 3, and that one even had around 10-15  :P. I understand it for the show, but I am just curious to see the effectiveness of just one, since I doubt I will make more than that

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Re: Light Vehicles 4 Russia
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2009, 01:02:11 AM »

 Katyusha being limited to 3.
 Callioppe is 32 rockets. How many rockets did you give
 Katyusha, and are those the same rockets?. One callioppe
 is pretty weak. To be effective, you need to fire both
 together. Translated to Katyushas (since it is arguably
 the same system)...

 You'd need to give soviets 4-6 to equate Callioppe.
 Unless you give 'em more rockets (32?) or made said
 rockets more powerful.

 Possible to have more details on in-game Katyusha
 payload? The're a lot more fragile (I assume) thank Calli's
 or, worse, Priests.

 Thoughts?
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Re: Light Vehicles 4 Russia
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2009, 04:14:02 AM »
You have already made that statemen and you have already got a answer why do you ask again?????????

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Re: Light Vehicles 4 Russia
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2009, 05:23:39 AM »
Thats my question with this guy

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Re: Light Vehicles 4 Russia
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2009, 06:18:29 AM »
Arguably, this is to do with the balance of the Propaganda Doctrine... its the most defensive of the Soviet Doctrines, you can pretty much sit Katyusha's behind trenches and MG dugouts  and just fire away without much fear of them being attacked directly.

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Re: Light Vehicles 4 Russia
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2009, 09:40:08 AM »

 - No... my question was never answered.
 1) How many missiles.
 2) Is it more fragile than Priest/Callioppe.
 3) What dmg do missiles/missile spread do from an
 individual katysha spread do? And if I was correct in
 assuming it would follow a Callioppe dispersion pattern.

 And THEN on that data, compare it to other equivalencies
 (2x Calliope).
 
 If a katyusha is worth HALF a callioppe, then 3x Katyusha
 are worth less than 2x Callioppes (16 vs 32 missiles each).
 Assuming missiles do the same damage, and that reload
 times are equivalent.

 But what he just said (Burrodiablo) is food for thought.
 I had not seen it from a defensive/offensive point of
 view?.  Must make tests :) Need data :)
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