Company of Heroes: Eastern Front

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Offline Flyingpan

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Recrewing
« on: October 23, 2009, 07:22:41 PM »
I'm really sorry if this has come up already, but I couldn't find it by searching, so here goes:

Why can't the Red Army re crew enemy (or their own) heavy weapons? As a WWII-veteran, my grandfather told me that the Red Army used plenty of captured weapons from the Germans, which they were quite capable of using. The Red Army used captured anti-tank guns, captured tanks and captured heavy weapons any time they could get them. I don't think the soldiers were naive enough to actually think that Red Army weapons always were superior. Other than that I don't think that "point and press the trigger" would be that hard for a Russian conscript to grasp.

Other than this tiny bit of criticism I'm pleased to see that there is a mod which incorporates what I originally thought that "Opposing Fronts" (come on, who didn't think that it would be about the eastern front?) would have.

Keep up the good work and keep making awesome stuff!

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Re: Recrewing
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2009, 07:36:52 PM »
Yes, the Red Army very liked trophies and very often used it. I am very sorry that in the mod we can't use trophies.
« Last Edit: October 23, 2009, 10:37:59 PM by UeArtemis »
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Re: Recrewing
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2009, 07:38:50 PM »
We dislike it too. It is a very unfortunate technical hitch, but we are getting around this by incorporating it as part of the faction design. And it works very well in sync with 'no retreat' and cheap units.

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Re: Recrewing
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2009, 07:48:36 PM »
Figures. Is there really no way around it at all?

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Re: Recrewing
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2009, 11:53:37 PM »
Ah so its a glitch  :( Is it just with conscripts or all infantry?

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Re: Recrewing
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2009, 12:07:37 AM »
Ah so its a glitch  :( Is it just with conscripts or all infantry?
im gonna go ahead and guess all

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Re: Recrewing
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2009, 12:24:17 AM »
And you guess correct.

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Re: Recrewing
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2009, 01:04:56 AM »
And you guess correct.
I hoped I was wrong  :( but oh well. So thq can't do any thing about it?

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Re: Recrewing
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2009, 12:13:36 AM »
I'm just wondering why it wouldnt work with russian infantry?

Is it due to the squad behaviour being different in some way? Im assuming you might have changed some, or left out a bit of coding that allows the squads to do that (or it has become corrupted slightly/changed for the red army soldiers). Or it could be down to the different squad size really - especially conscripts, as 3 have weapons and 3 dont, and the game doesnt understand that.

But im just guessing, and have no realy knowledge.

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Re: Recrewing
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2009, 01:34:59 AM »
Re-crewing causes the game to crash. Its something to do with adding in a new faction. We've built the Soviets around the problem but I'm hoping we'll find a solution by the time we create the Ostheer.

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Re: Recrewing
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2010, 11:42:48 AM »
Bumping this thread just to get a conclusive answer.

Is there absolutely no way to have the soviets recrew their weapons? Not even in patches?
I'd rather be able to recrew than get a four man weapons squad. ^^

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Re: Recrewing
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2010, 12:00:02 PM »
So long as I can reinforce the squad that is holding the weapon it shouldn't be much of a problem.  Usually if the whole crew is killed all at once then there are much worse things to worry about. 

But, can the Germans capture Russian weapons?

And if the Russians will be allowed to be used alongside the other allied nations ( historical accuracy aside ) will they also be able to re-crew lost soviet weapons?


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Re: Recrewing
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2010, 12:04:20 PM »
So long as I can reinforce the squad that is holding the weapon it shouldn't be much of a problem.  Usually if the whole crew is killed all at once then there are much worse things to worry about. 

But, can the Germans capture Russian weapons?

And if the Russians will be allowed to be used alongside the other allied nations ( historical accuracy aside ) will they also be able to re-crew lost soviet weapons?

The problem is that they also can't retreat, making them a nice juicy target for quick attacks and capture.

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Re: Recrewing
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2010, 01:43:43 PM »
Coperincus says there is a possible way to do it, but he needs Relic to do something for him first before it is possible. I think he's contacted them, but don't hold your breath.

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Re: Recrewing
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2010, 02:50:18 PM »
Coperincus says there is a possible way to do it, but he needs Relic to do something for him first before it is possible. I think he's contacted them, but don't hold your breath.
they helped you with the beta did they not?