Riggs vs EFZenith ( Tom )

[Riggsman]

OK, this time I played Ostheer, sticking one side- imho the safer left side on Langres, when I had my first AT unit maybe even before, Zenith had 2 T34s and a Kv1 ) Rest is just misery. I had half of the map, good income but early-mid game is so broken, teching is over problematic, this is what you gonna see in a mid-mid plus level game when Ost faces Soviets

[Dreamerbg]

How many times Darc must post a comment, saying that there is already new OH teching in making... ?

Thank you for the replay, but keep those strong words away, please. Its enough to say - there is a problem, something is not right, see this replay, lets talk about possible solutions.
If you really want to help the mod be constructive.

[Riggsman]

How many times you, Darc, Ape said "We need replays!!" ? How many? You asked, I give.

I don't care what you doing in the internal. We are discussing here the current one which most of you defend stubbornly. I can't talk about the internal process which I don't have any access like many people here.

This is the product which is available at the moment and this is the gameplay we tell that broken for a long. I can't be more constructive. "Something is not right", "there's a problem but I don't know what it is" is not my way. I say things specifically like some other good players. Being silent is not constructive. If you can't see this, than don't bother to reply me.

If you need a constant playerbase, then listen everything carefully and be "constructive" to cooperate for a better gameplay to lure more players.

Btw, fyi :

BUT our problem is that no one is playing EF in MP games. All the balance stuff is done by a small group of devs.
When u have balance problems try to play with devs OR upload replays because we can just check and analyse units with your replays!
All in all we are happy about feedback but we need datas and replays to work and balance stuff... Thanky u very much.

[Alexander 'ApeMen' J.]

Hey riggs, like i already said i will watch the replays and thx for uploading them. After this i can tell if these kind of issues are still part of the new teching or not.

[Hendrik 'DarcReaver' S.]

How many times Darc must post a comment, saying that there is already new OH teching in making... ?

Thank you for the replay, but keep those strong words away, please. Its enough to say - there is a problem, something is not right, see this replay, lets talk about possible solutions.
If you really want to help the mod be constructive.

Well, it's true that we're already creating a new teching and game design for Ostheer, but compared to these changes Soviets have not been touched that much. Essentially this mean that these replays can tell us if there's something wrong with soviets, which also is very useful. I'll have a look on these replays ASAP.

Hey riggs, like i already said i will watch the replays and thx for uploading them. After this i can tell if these kind of issues are still part of the new teching or not.

I second this, feedback is feedback and thanks for providing us replays.

[Tom]

How many times Darc must post a comment, saying that there is already new OH teching in making... ?

Thank you for the replay, but keep those strong words away, please. Its enough to say - there is a problem, something is not right, see this replay, lets talk about possible solutions.
If you really want to help the mod be constructive.

Well, if you guys can't take criticism then this mod shouldn't be public.  We're doing you a favor showing you these glaring problems so when a new player tries the mod it won't insta-uninstall it after 2 games.
Maybe you wont see this kind of shit in low level games or comp stomping, but decent players will find it disturbing.

Concerning the new build. How will it prevent this kind of shit shown in this replay? Trust me, the PAK Halftrack is not going to cut it. Besides, you have marder2. 

[Cranialwizard]

How many times Darc must post a comment, saying that there is already new OH teching in making... ?

Thank you for the replay, but keep those strong words away, please. Its enough to say - there is a problem, something is not right, see this replay, lets talk about possible solutions.
If you really want to help the mod be constructive.

Well, if you guys can't take criticism then this mod shouldn't be public.  We're doing you a favor showing you these glaring problems so when a new player tries the mod it won't insta-uninstall it after 2 games.
Maybe you wont see this kind of shit in low level games or comp stomping, but decent players will find it disturbing.

Concerning the new build. How will it prevent this kind of shit shown in this replay? Trust me, the PAK Halftrack is not going to cut it. Besides, you have marder2.

Though what you say is true, try to keep calm about the process. Criticism in all forms should be looked into, or else you're not actually doing the job right.

As far as I know, the new teching should help improve the situation within the OH's abuse of Landsers but it should be taken into account that tweaking on both factions needs to be preformed here.

[Dreamerbg]

I see everyone got me wrong. OK, my fault !

As you all can see I like the fact there is a replay that devs can look into it which is showing some of this advantages for OH and SU . I just dont like to see so much offensive words and this much offensive manners in general.
Maybe only I see thing on this way, maybe not... but lets stop here.

[Riggsman]

Well the question is;  Who is offended? Why is he offended?

Anyway, I take your statement as "Ok, ok you pointed out those failures so clearly that which is not fixed for a long time and seemed ok for us, all true but it's hard to accept in public so make it more "soft and nice" so I'll not be offended as being a part of this work".

All fair to me. Just I don't understand how can I be offensive when I say "teching is problematic, early-mid game broken". You don't have to answer that btw. It's a rhetoric question.