A few of my Ostheer balance concerns

[Codename "Tiger"]

Sturmpioneer Upgrade is one of the best things Ostheer have....
With Combat Upgrade you can Cap VPs in late Game, repair near to the front and fight......
Good and Strong combination: Sturmpioneer wir Combat Training + Tier1 Support Upgrade (then they cap faster )

[Tom]

Sturmpioneer Upgrade is one of the best things Ostheer have....
With Combat Upgrade you can Cap VPs in late Game, repair near to the front and fight......
Good and Strong combination: Sturmpioneer wir Combat Training + Tier1 Support Upgrade (then they cap faster )

If it would include expert repair in this huge price than it would make sense to repair near the front, otherwise the war ends until you finish your repairs. And those famo's are so clumbsy, not to mention that they get owned pretty fast if ur not careful, 1 sticky and its gone.

And honestly the vet system needs a little rework. Why would i give repair vet to combat units like landser, jaegers sturmfusiliers. They are made to kill even better once vetted. Except for the medkit which acts more like wehr vet1 infa i dont see much use of this vetting system. Some offensive/defensive vet would be better.

[Hendrik 'DarcReaver' S.]

It looks like you don't get the vet system. The unit itself gets combat bonuses anyways. The chooseable vet is only utility. Medic helps your infantry, mechanics help your vehicles and scout helps your support units (larger line of sight and stuff). Same for vehicles: all vehicles get stuff like more accuracy and more damage anyways. The driver, loader, commander vet only changes a certain aspect of the vehicle. Better defense, better AI or better speed.

About the famo : agree, that vehicle was on my to-do list. I'll check its stats and see what I can do.

[krupp steel]

The marksman's burst fire ability seems useless. What's the point of damaging units opposed to sniping them every shot?

[Gerrit 'Lord Rommel' G.]

Do u used it?
Easy way to kill a group of soldiers 
(But u need guys to finish the job)

[Tom]

Is the Brumbar just a cheap copy of stuh42? Because it feels like it but it comes late in the game as an elephant. It has a 150mm gun, make it own just like the KV1. I was surprised when KV1 was anihilating vet 3 grens with its masive explosion. Thats exactly how the brumbar should to be. Just my thoughts.

[Gerrit 'Lord Rommel' G.]

1.) U are talking about the KV-1 or KV-2 tank? Because the last one is a heavy anti infantry weapon.
2.) Brummbär is a much better version of the StuH. Bigger gun, more demage, good armor and good against infantry and infantry blobs.
With Tiger I a good armored battle group. 

[Jeff 'Robotnik' W.]

Also, i think more than 1 brumbar can be called in at a time, unlike the KV-2

I do think it comes a bit late though at i think it was 8 CP

[Gerrit 'Lord Rommel' G.]

It is a nice answer against this typical soviet late game guards troops. When u come under pressure by this guards the Brummbär can save your ass

[Tom]

Nah. I'm not impressed, because it fires the stuh round, sometimes when it hits in the middle of the squad does no damage (random), exactly like the stuh. I can't say the same thing about the KV2, that beast really puts the hurt on infantry.

Although KV2 and Brumbar has the same caliber, the brumbar explosion and area of effect its much smaller.

[Jeff 'Robotnik' W.]

Its probably done for balance reasons. looking at the stats the brumbar is definitely more powerful than the stuh, but less powerful than the KV-2.

But the KV-2 is like the tiger in that only 1 can be called in at a time, while you can have multiple brumbars out at a time.

Im thinking of giving the brumbar an ability or something to make it more powerful.

[Hendrik 'DarcReaver' S.]

Thing is: Army Elite already has the strongest infantry (panzerkrieg bonus near vehicles, Pincer movement, faster vet) and the strongest tank (Tiger). If you now also add strong artillery to the doctrine it's overpowered. That's also the reason why the Sturmtiger is not in this doctrine anymore.

Also, the Brummbär is a bitch to take down in direct combat. It's armour is decent and you're pretty much forced to use tanks vs. Brummbärs, because AT guns and inf don't cut it.

[Tom]

well, it feels like this doctrine has too much already. maybe it would do better without the brummbar. it comes so late and by that time chances are the soviet already got high tier tanks.

the pincer movement costs 150muni and makes all your troops to sprint?

[Codename "Tiger"]

Brumbär comes too late?
Then Elefant comes late too
It would be OP if it comes earlier

[Tom]

Brumbär comes too late?
Then Elefant comes late too
It would be OP if it comes earlier

You dont understand. Stuh42 come really quick compared to the brumbar, and its not op.

Elephant should come late, its almost like a KT.