Recoiless jeeps

[Pac-Fish]

Im sorta a mix of both . Yeah I wanna win and winning would make me happy but I wanna have fun too. I dont wanna just stomp my enemy or get stomped myself (cause quite honestly its very boring). I wanna challenge that grants me a satisfying win and forces me to think, not just a lop sided game where you abuse something. I also dislike the idea of a build order. Its kinda boring and doesn't allow for too much creativity  . I mean there are some things (4 PG IMO, Lt. for brits, CS for SU) that are essential but the rest you should decide for yourself .

They were havng a simlar disscussion like this on GR.org just yesturday (and probably today as well ) about having fun and playing a fair game versus simply abusing something thats deemed OP and unfair to simply win and destroy your enemy (in this case it was Stag and gren spam and whether or nor Brits should be allowed in SNL anymore. BTW the Gren spam won ^^). IMO a game loses meaning when your not having fun (yeah, theres MLG but seriously, wtf?). Theres a reason why its called a game. Do ppl rage? Sure, all the time. But you shouldn't let it effect you for too long (maybe an hour at most)

But back OT, are recoiless Jeeps being replaced or simply nerfed

[Chancellor]

I guess competitive pvp is needed in any rts game, the question is why there's need for 'ranks' or statistics - they spoil entire gameplay.  In CoH we have similiar problem, and often many people who play pvp are playing only to get next 'rank' what basically gives nothing.

Well, from my own perspective, this is how it runs.  I don't play for ranks, but I do use my automatch rank so that I don't automatically get labeled as a total noob and then kicked.  I don't give a fuck how many stripes I have on the screen, that's not the point, but I do use rank and win/loss ratio as an indicator of how well I'm doing and whether I need to get my shit together and step it up.  Which brings me to my next point.

They play hard, use tricks, watch replays and read guides to be better and better, and only fun they get is when they win. I enjoy every second of my game, and I don't care about teching, fuel conservation and stuff. Yes, I lose often, but at least I enjoy the game. Do they?

Maybe you just enjoy playing the game, regardless of how bad you are at it, and that's perfectly fine.  But for some players like myself, we get the fun from the competitiveness of the game.  Really, its just human nature.  Some of us are more competitive by nature than others.  Its just like in real life, how some people play sports with their family and friends for fun, and some people play in sports teams to win.  Both get some sort of enjoyment from a sport like, say, hockey (because it rocks), but the fun is just derived differently.  Personally, I do play to win, I'm not denying it, but I don't get my fun only when I win; I get it from the competition.  So if it was a close game without exploits, then I'll have had my fun already.

[GodlikeDennis]

Agreed. A close, high level competitive game without abuse is more fun than just winning a so-so game.

[madmongo]

I would rather play a good fun competative game and lose to a skilful player or brillant tactics than someone who is a dick/spams/uses one tactic over and over.

[paperboy]

So if it was a close game without exploits, then I'll have had my fun already.

Are staghounds considered exploits in vcoh?

[GodlikeDennis]

Staghound spam would be, yes, because their MG is bugged in vCoH to be far better than it should.

[Pac-Fish]

So if it was a close game without exploits, then I'll have had my fun already.

Are staghounds considered exploits in vcoh?

They have this conversation on GR.org like every week lol . IMO its a exploit but its NOT cheating. Is it cheap? Hell Yeah! Is it cheating and do you deserved to be banned or flamed for it? Hell no! All I have to say bout Stags

[Cranialwizard]

Two Stags with MGs can suppress squads as fast as Browning HMG team. It's ridiculous.

[Pac-Fish]

Two Stags with MGs can suppress squads as fast as Browning HMG team. It's ridiculous.

From what I hear, any armor (StuG to Panther) will kill it . And one shot from a 88 can bring a full health Stag to low health . I know from experience . Well actually my 88 shot a T17 but its the same thing

[GodlikeDennis]

British Stags have way more health than the American variant.

[Pac-Fish]

British Stags have way more health than the American variant.

Oh, I thought they were the same . Well a StuG can still kill it right?

[stealthattack1]

stug will kill both at the same time.