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Offline Rikard Blixt

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Re: [1.501] Main Guns nerfed or Armor buffed?
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2011, 12:46:10 AM »
haha sry bishop,your right^^

i asked him what the name for the OH-tech tree is gonne be in german,since strategy,company,tactic etc is already used^^

"Army X Troops" in English. Eg. "Army Support Troops".

I'm assuming the German translation will use something similar.
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Re: [1.501] Main Guns nerfed or Armor buffed?
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2011, 09:45:12 AM »
haha sry bishop,your right^^

i asked him what the name for the OH-tech tree is gonne be in german,since strategy,company,tactic etc is already used^^

"Army X Troops" in English. Eg. "Army Support Troops".

I'm assuming the German translation will use something similar.

The German translation will use the following, if Lord Rommel, the Ostheers godfather, won't disagree:

Armee-Unterstützungstruppen
  • Luftwaffe-Unterstützung
  • Verbündeten-Unterstützung

Armee-Elitetruppen
  • Sturmabteilung
  • Eliteabteilung

Armee-Festungstruppen
  • Verbesserte Verteidigung
  • Verbesserte Versorgung

Anyway, back to topic.

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Re: [1.501] Main Guns nerfed or Armor buffed?
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2011, 01:08:43 PM »
ok thanks,was wondering all the time^^

ok since the topic was strong armor and weak mainguns,what is the deal with sherman jumbo? in my opinion it's just an american version of the churchill,strong armor but weak gun. i think people would rather call in the pershing since it's main gun rocks

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Re: [1.501] Main Guns nerfed or Armor buffed?
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2011, 10:52:24 PM »
Sherman jumbo replaces the calliope, not the pershing, and goes well alongside with it. giving it the main gun upgrade makes it around equal in strength to a panther

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Re: [1.501] Main Guns nerfed or Armor buffed?
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2011, 06:04:10 PM »
man i must stop forgetting the main gun upgrade :D

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Re: [1.501] Main Guns nerfed or Armor buffed?
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2011, 04:04:04 AM »
The jumbo is available ?earlier and also costs less, not to mention (and this is from playing Europe in Ruins mod which uses Panther_Skirted armor on its Jumbo) the fact that some of the axis stat tables are wicked messed up against it (again, assuming from EiR, where 88s had a lower penetration rating vs its rear armor then a Panzer 4 or Ostwind).
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Re: [1.501] Main Guns nerfed or Armor buffed?
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2011, 05:55:22 AM »
the jumbo in this game has 1100 health and uses churchill armor

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Re: [1.501] Main Guns nerfed or Armor buffed?
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2011, 01:46:38 PM »
I was playing a game vs a hard cpu

Balance discussions are considerate ONLY AND EXCLUSIVELY in "HumanPlayer vs HumanPlayer (1v1 - 2v2)" matchs.

Skirmishes are not argument of balance discussions.
If unit performance is imbalanced in CPU play. It is imbalanced in PvP play. The converse is not necessarily true. Please desist from fanboy/balancer crap.
 
Analysis of model stats and knowledge of the CoH combat engine is the best way to evaluate models in the game, (short of playinf the units that is). Comparison of historical specs is very deceptive when applied to game situations. Example: PE H35/H39 performs vld ery well as a light/medium tank in the game. Historically the ATV had a one man turret with a short barreled 37 mm cannon. It was operated by the tank commander and used a "belt fed" style loading system. A long barreled 37mm or "50mm"   ::) cannon would not fit in the turret. In the game using an understanding of the stats and engine an H35 can frequently take out a T34. A feat that would be incredible historically.
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Re: [1.501] Main Guns nerfed or Armor buffed?
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2011, 08:31:47 PM »
ai gets modifieres for the units. for example easy AI units are weaker than the ones of a human player.
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