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[1.3.1.0] Soviet / CW combination op?
« on: May 12, 2011, 03:44:59 PM »
hi folks

i have seen this combination a few times and at the same skill level its impossible to conter this combination für the axis team.

the soviets can capp and spam too fast and the brit player supports with strong infantry and/or 1-2 emplacements.

i mean its a free win for allis if both team have the same skill

do not get me wrong
i dont mean its always a free win for allis!

so what do you all think about it?
is that correct or do I exaggerate?



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Re: [1.3.1.0] Soviet / CW combination op?
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2011, 03:49:38 PM »
I've made the same experience, though it differs from person to person. Actually I don't know what to do against this. The factions are fine how they are now (with a few exceptions).

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Re: [1.3.1.0] Soviet / CW combination op?
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2011, 04:10:30 PM »
hi folks

i have seen this combination a few times and at the same skill level its impossible to conter this combination für the axis team.

the soviets can capp and spam too fast and the brit player supports with strong infantry and/or 1-2 emplacements.

i mean its a free win for allis if both team have the same skill

do not get me wrong
i dont mean its always a free win for allis!

so what do you all think about it?
is that correct or do I exaggerate?

The balance of every faction I think is maded and projected for 1v1 game;
2v2 are different, it depends from the players skill.

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Re: [1.3.1.0] Soviet / CW combination op?
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2011, 05:24:09 PM »
Allies > Axis in 2v2 games

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Re: [1.3.1.0] Soviet / CW combination op?
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2011, 05:24:46 PM »
i dont think so

you can still play a 3vs3 in combination us and cw vs wehr and pe this is more balaced than cw/soviet

and yes i like to play 1vs1 and it is more or less balanced but i prefer 2vs2^^



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Re: [1.3.1.0] Soviet / CW combination op?
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2011, 05:50:37 PM »
do you have a replay?
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Re: [1.3.1.0] Soviet / CW combination op?
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2011, 05:56:42 PM »
no but i tested it with Killar and TheDzierzanPL
Killar was Soviet and Dzierzan was CW

and after max 10min it was gg


but its not the problem to create a replay
just need to play again in this combination
« Last Edit: May 12, 2011, 05:58:21 PM by evilSpike »



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Re: [1.3.1.0] Soviet / CW combination op?
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2011, 07:15:54 PM »
do you have a replay?

and here it is


note the second replay:

- on some maps on some points forward soviet outposts cant be build (at duclair on the medium mun point next to the middle vp)

- Su-85 snipes infantry pretty well (imo op)

- t-34 Health is too high or shreks should do more damage

- shots just bouncing off soviet tanks (t-34 specially)

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Re: [1.3.1.0] Soviet / CW combination op?
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2011, 04:39:09 AM »
noticed a few mistakes, good play by allies and a little bit of luck for both

 I know what its like to have a bad game and I've wanted to cry OP before too, just review your games and remember to improve in areas where u could have done better. and you will improve like this
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Re: [1.3.1.0] Soviet / CW combination op?
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2011, 08:17:58 AM »
do you have a replay?

- t-34 Health is too high or shreks should do more damage

T34/76 has 85 less hit points than a sherman and a T34/85 has a mere 13 hit points more...so, no.

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- shots just bouncing off soviet tanks (t-34 specially)

They're bouncing off 15% more often than a sherman, which is not high - Deal with it, its NOT a sherman

Rather than when you get a defeat spring back to the forum and cry 'OP! everything is OP that's why I lost!' try reviewing the replay yourself a day or two later. you'll get a better idea
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SU85 has been addressed and should hit as often as an M10....it's very different now. Although to be fair, M10 runs over grens and the like like no other....so its hard to complain about the SU85 sniping the off infantry man
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Re: [1.3.1.0] Soviet / CW combination op?
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2011, 11:09:51 AM »
T34/76 has 85 less hit points than a sherman and a T34/85 has a mere 13 hit points more...so, no.


Interesting

They're bouncing off 15% more often than a sherman, which is not high - Deal with it, its NOT a sherman

Of course its not a sherman. But it takes the role of a sherman against wehr.

Rather than when you get a defeat spring back to the forum and cry 'OP! everything is OP that's why I lost!' try reviewing the replay yourself a day or two later. you'll get a better idea

I won both games so i think you didnt even watch the replays

SU85 has been addressed and should hit as often as an M10....it's very different now.

Aha. Seems many things have already been changed for the next patch i dont know of. Just say so.

It seems to report something when you meet already on sensitive ears  :-\

noticed a few mistakes

What kind of mistakes? Pls explain
« Last Edit: May 13, 2011, 11:20:24 AM by Killar »

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Re: [1.3.1.0] Soviet / CW combination op?
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2011, 01:35:10 PM »
I didn't say that I watched the replays, that was a general comment on what people tend to do...anyways... ::)
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Re: [1.3.1.0] Soviet / CW combination op?
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2011, 01:48:39 PM »
one mistake was the fuk of one of my volks as i tryed to kill the brit lui
but the others? idk whar i could do better in this situation



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Re: [1.3.1.0] Soviet / CW combination op?
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2011, 01:58:07 PM »
I didn't say that I watched the replays, that was a general comment on what people tend to do...anyways... ::)
a general comment as a reply to my post  ::)

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Re: [1.3.1.0] Soviet / CW combination op?
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2011, 05:46:17 PM »
do you have a replay?

- t-34 Health is too high or shreks should do more damage

T34/76 has 85 less hit points than a sherman and a T34/85 has a mere 13 hit points more...so, no.

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- shots just bouncing off soviet tanks (t-34 specially)

They're bouncing off 15% more often than a sherman, which is not high - Deal with it, its NOT a sherman

Rather than when you get a defeat spring back to the forum and cry 'OP! everything is OP that's why I lost!' try reviewing the replay yourself a day or two later. you'll get a better idea

SU85 has been addressed and should hit as often as an M10....it's very different now. Although to be fair, M10 runs over grens and the like like no other....so its hard to complain about the SU85 sniping the off infantry man
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