Second try at Ostheer Army by Neosdark

[neosdark]

Okay this is my 2nd plan for the Ostheer and I find that it address the problems with too many similar units and too many call-ins, but hey everyone has opinions.

The idea would be to have an HQ in a base area that can be connected to the sectors through building special buildings that can produce units. The more sectors you control in this fashion (for a maximum of 5 buildings) the more units you can make. The buildings can create units depending on what sector they are in: base control points provide you with balanced vehicles and infantry, the fuel sectors that allow you to deploy powerful tanks and vehicles, and munition bases deploy powerful infantry.

 Each of these bases also comes with a slight buff to the resources recieved. A problem that this causes is that the main base does not come with MGs. Sturm-Pioneers, which create the buildings these guys use, can capture sectors swiftly, but cannot build defenses save for mines, and a small dugout that can be garrisoned by a Jaeger squad or a Volkssturm squad (if the Jaeger squad is inside the dugout it's covered by leaves and camouflaged with him).


Anyway here are the buildings:

Ost-Operations Center-Produces:

Sturm-Pioneers [3 man squad, armed with 3 MP 3008s, upgrade with Mine Detectors, can capture swiftly and build mines and dugouts]

Universal Upgrades:

Uber-Blitz- increases the speed at which all units capture and allows garrisoned vehicles to capture. (500 manpower),

Defensive Operations- This upgrade allows you to train Defense Pioneers from the Operations Center and Infantry Command Barracks. This new emphasis on the defensive also allows for our Infantry to create trenches for free. These trenches can fit up to 7 people and/or 2 squads. (Sturm-Pioneers can still be produced) -200 Manpower, 10 Fuel.

High Command- Allows you to deploy the Obersturmführer command unit from the Infantry Command Barracks. As an additional preparation for the arrival of such a high ranking officer all Infantry (not Support) squads are given extra rations to improve their already high morale, thus making them fight better and march slightly quicker- 300 Manpower, 25 Fuel.

Ost-Recruitment Barracks(250 Manpower): This building can only be built in the main base territory. Produces:

Volkssturm [4 men, Armed with 2 MP 3008 and 2 Kar98k, with no special abilities this poorly trained squad of civillians is our first line of defense against any enemies we may encounter. Surely stronger and better equipped then a Soviet Conscript squad they are lacking in firepower and number against most other squads, 250 manpower, 4 pop.],

Kübelwagen- This light unarmored car, has an MG34 and a large sight radius. Use it to stalk snipers and scout out targets for artillery. Combines the speed of the Motorcycle and the reverse capabilities of the Schwimmwagen, so slightly more expensive.- 300 Manpower, 2 Pop.
 
Nachstellung (stalking? Please correct, guys) Jaeger [2 man sniper squad that is armed with a scoped StG-44 and 1 MP-40] Act similar in nature to the Russian sniper teams but have only 2 abilities and no artillery capabilities abilities, they instead have a full-auto sniper rifle and the abilities to camouflage (moving camo) and the ability to upgrade with another 2 members into the sniper squad creating the Jaeger Band. (Jaeger Band-a 4 man sniper squad with 1 scoped Kar98k, 1 scoped StG-44 and 2 StG-44. The Jaeger Band upgrade requires for the Wunderwaffen upgrade to be purchased and causes an increase in the pop cost by 2 and gives them more firepower, survivability and allows them to  fire of a high barrage of very accurate bullets which suppresses all soldiers in that squad(which costs 50 munitions, and has a 1 min recharge).) This upgrade itself costs 150 Munitions.  [350 manpower, 6 pop.]

Universal Upgrade: (Last Ditch Perfection) Replace all Kar 98ks with VG-1-5 (costs 100 manpower)


The building that can be built on regular control points would be the Ostheer Battalion Barracks(250 Manpower 20 Fuel):

Produces: Sturmgrenadiers- backbone of the Ostheer [6 man squad armed with MP 40, that can be upgraded with Suomi m/1931 and/or Gewehr 43s for better close or long-range combat (2 upgrade slots that upgrade 3 people for 1 upgrade), can use bundled grenades, 350 manpower, 6 pop.]

Panzer III- [with the 3.7 cm KwK 36 L/46.5 gun, that has 3 potential upgrades,

1)an upgrade to the larger 5 cm KwK 39 L/60,

2)a flamethrower upgrade to the Flammpanzer III (F1)  Flamethrower tank-a Flamethrower tank that can still use its main gun and has its hull-MG replaced with a flamethrower or

3) the Artillerie-Panzerbeobachtungswagen III - Forward artillery observer tank that has a dummy gun that masks a MG 34 and a another MG 34 in the ball turret that has a large line of sight and can call in small Mortar Barrages. Either upgrade is 100 munitions each [500 manpower, 30 fuel, 5 pop. ],

Twin Mortar Squad- [5 men, armed with 1 MP-40, 1 5-cm leGrW 36 mortar and 1 8-cm sGrW 34 mortar, this 2 mortar squad is large but must be defended since there is only one free member, 350 Manpower, 5 pop. Can use Mortar Barrages and each mortar has its own barrage placement area (so u can target 2 areas at one time.)]

Boher 4.7 cm PaK- This PaK was designed by Austria’s military and a few fell into our hands during the Anschluss. Our Italian comrades love this gun so we decided to give it a try. Operated by 3 Italian gunners and 1 German officer this AT gun is good against Vehicles and Meduim tanks but lacks the firepower to take on heavier tanks and also has poor accuracy against smaller targets, so infantry are harder to hit. The difference in nationality between operators can sometimes cause confusion in orders and thus make them shoot at wrong targets, but for this loss they have a longer range and tend to aim for tanks more than vehicles. Can use Tungsten-core Shells for 50 munitions per Activation, lasts 30 seconds (200 Manpower, 20 fuel, 4 pop.)



Universal Upgrades: Wunderwaffen-Exchanges all MP-40s and VG1-5 for StG-44s. (200 manpower, 20 fuel),   

The building on the fuel sector is the Panzer Deployment Hanger(300 Manpower 40 Fuel):

Produces:  Panzer 4 Ausf. F1[Armed with short-barreled gun has 2 upgrade paths-
1) Conversion to the Panzer 4 Ausf. F2 with the longer barreled gun and MG 34/side skirt combo pack or
2)Have the turret replace to make it a Jagdpanzer 4 with a MG 34 and Zimmerit anti-mine paste (for mine protection)
Upgrades: F2 long-barrel, MG34 and side-skirt combo or Jagdpanzer 4 with MG 34 and Zimmerit anti-mine paste so those sticky bombs and mines work worse (either upgrade costs 100 munitions) (The Jagdpanzer 4 can camo), 450 manpower 40 fuel, 6 pop.
   
Panther Ausf A[ Lower speed then the Wehr and PE Panther, but similar gun this Panther is cheaper to make and takes up less population but is also easier to outrun for the T-34s, this Panther comes with a nasty surprise, researchable APCR rounds to make the T-34 even bigger scrap heaps and turn IS-2 into metal shavings. Upgrades MG 42/skirts and APCR rounds for added AT- capability (125 munitions) Cost 560 manpower 65 fuel, 9 pop. ]

Flakpanzer 38(t)[ Light converted tank armed with a single Flak 38, that is very good against planes and infantry this Flakpanzer is fast but has pretty light armor so it is easier to destroy than the comparable Ostwind or Wirblewind. 400 manpower, 30 fuel, 5 pop]

Universal Upgrade: Forced Labor- All vehicles and tanks are manufactured at 1.5 the regular production speed letting our tanks arrive at the front faster. (300 manpower and 100 fuel)

The final building can only be built on munition sectors and it is the: Infantry Command Barracks(200 MP 50 Fuel)

Produces:

SS-Panzergrenadiers [Powerful infantry that can mount Panzer 3s and 4s, these 5 man squads are armed with 5 MP-40s, these infantry can be upgraded with Panzerschrecks, G43 w/scope (allows for a single snipe shot for 10 munitions), MG 42s, captured PPSh-41s, or the SS weapon pack that comes with 1 MG42, 1 PPSh-41, 2 Panzerschreck, and 1 G43 to insure maximum capabilities against all targets for different situations (400 manpower, 6 population, have 5 weapons vacancy slots for 1 upgrade for each person)

Obersturmführer Command Squad- This officer unit comes with a personal bodyguard of 3 SS soldiers handpicked to guard your officer, making this a squad of 4 man, armed with 1 Walther PPK and 3 ZK 383. It is very similar to the Soviet Command Squad but has 3 different abilities.

1)The first ability is called Fanatic Inspiration which causes all soldiers to fight more ruthlessly and cause suppression much quicker and with all weaponry (even pistols),

2)The second ability is to call in Recon planes (so it functions like an expensive binoculars upgrade) to survey an area,
3)And the final ability to act like a “on the field” retreat point (just like the British captain) for a short period of time, so we can continue our blitz strike.- (The squad costs 320 Manpower and takes up 5 pop.)

Defense-Pioneers- [these 4 tough engineer units are armed with 4 G-41(W) and fulfill very similar in role to the British sappers, they can be equipped with Mine-Detectors, Twin Flamethrowers, and Advanced Repair. They also build mines, barbed wire, tank traps, and special Bunkers that can be upgraded with three separate upgrades-

1) A Flak Bunker with 2 Flak 38s on the roof designed to take on infantry and planes. This is a cheap alternative for the Flakpanzer 38(t), but stationary and with less range.

2) A special Medicinal Bunker that houses medics that treat soldiers wounds and can also be upgraded to repair vehicles in close proximity (NOTE: Do not recover soldiers in the field that are wounded).

3) Infiltration Bunker- a special bunker that allows you to move infantry from one bunker to another. You can only deploy 2 at a time and they help in moving troops from your base to the front and vice-versa, takes different amounts of time to get to the front depending on distances between bunkers. Bunkers cost 200 Manpower each, the upgrades are each 75 munitions. 300 manpower, 4 pop. Mines are 50 munitions and Tank Traps are free.]
 
Panzerwerfer 15 cm Panzerwerfer 42 auf Selbstfahrlafette Sd.Kfz.4/1- this halftrack is armed with 10 rocket pods and an MG 34 for self-defense. In reason it is similar to the Nebelwerfer but less accurate and shoots more rockets. Be aware though as the MG on this cannot suppress on the level of other MGs. 450 manpower, 20 fuel, 6 pop.]

Universal Upgrade: Kraumlauf: This special attachment can now be used by any squads equipped with StG 44. The Kraumlauf bent barrel increases the accuracy of any soldiers in cover and buildings.

Now Doctrines:

Army Group North-Leningrad Siege:

Right Side: Siege Craft
1)   Death’s Toll: A single shot is fired by a 24 cm Kanone 3 that does extreme damage to any units in its huge radius and suppresses all infantry within that sector- 2 CP. Costs 100 Munitions. Recharge 3 min.

2)   Chain of Command: Your Artillerie-Panzerbeobachtungswagen III can now request heavy artillery strikes on the enemy positions. You can choose to drop High-Explosive rounds or Incendiary rounds- 2 CP, 100 munitions per shoot, 1 minute recharge (If you use one of the shells on any particular tank you must recharge both on that tank ONLY.)

3)   Waffentrager Heuschrecke: This self-propelled 105-mm gun is very useful when you want mobile artillery. And it comes with a small surprise for the Soviet tanks, it can depress low enough to fire its cannon at them directly. Beware however; it has weak armor and isn’t fast so shoot in numbers and with range. It also takes a small amount of time to transition between artillery and straight-fire modes-3 CP, Cost 560 manpower and take up 10 population. Limit 3 per commander.


Left Side: Infantry Support
1)   Strike Support-A SdKfz 6 halftrack has been provided to our comrades on the Soviet Front. This extremely large halftrack can fit 15 people or 3 squads. Has light armor so it can survive a few PTRD shots but don’t get too cocky. Functions as a mobile reinforcement point like most other halftracks. 350 Manpower, 5 pop.

2)    Charge for Fatherland: Gives a small burst of speed to any squad in its radius and also makes them insuppressible, but after which they will become sluggish at movement and have horrid accuracy- 2 CP, 100 munitions, 2 min recharge time.

3)   Gebirgsjäger Strike Squad- Armed with 2 MG 42 LMGs and 1 Scoped G43, this 3 man squad is extremely skilled at suppressing and sniping enemies from long to medium ranges. Armed to the teeth with Anti-Infantry weaponry, these soldiers can also throw Incendiary grenades and camouflage in heavy cover.- 560 Manpower, 6 pop.




Army Group Center-Moscow Front: Right Side: Panzer Support

1) S-mine-This new fangled system can now be installed on our tanks to provide Anti-Infantry defense on our tanks. It is extremely effective, but must be reloaded externally so it can only be recharged out of combat- 1CP, 50 munitions per use, 1 min to recharge (only recharged out of combat)

2)  Repair Support- Mechanics can be slow, and I’m sure any good commander knows that we must keep our tanks going faster, more often then we’d like them going slow. So we at HQ have thought of an ingenious idea. A halftrack filled with Mechanics is provided to our commanders on the front. These quick and mobile Mechanics can quickly repair any of our damaged tanks from the safety of an armored halftrack. Beware though the exchange for a bullet-proof halftrack is that the mechanics repair a little slower than normal (so they faster than the Pioneers but slower then Soviet or any other Advanced Repair unit) -2CP, 400 Manpower, 5 pop.

3)   Hell-Tiger-What else can a commander dream of. A single Tiger I armed with HE rounds, AT rounds, smoke dispensers is now at your disposal. Its weakness is that it can easily be immobilized by getting just a few shoots into the treads so try not to let it get shot up much. Artillery is also a bit of a problem as their shells can easily destroy the intricate treads. Can only be deployed once.-4CP, 13 pop, 900 manpower.

Left Side: Blitzkrieg Tactics

1)   Early Recon- Our early reconnaissance squads have done their job well. We can now see what sectors our enemies occupy, if they are secured or not and how many emplacements are present in their territories. It doesn’t show the Headquarters or Main Base (so the British can hide their emplacements behind their MAIN HEADQUARTERS TRUCK, not the other trucks, which are shown on the map) buildings or units in any sector. However whenever they build a new emplacement we will know about it.(Passive Ability)-2 CP

2)   Unleash the Reserves: Gives any squads in its large radius automatic reinforcement to maximum capacity and makes them fire faster, with renewed vigor, unfortunately the use of our reserves makes getting reinforcements at the headquarters or forward HQ impossible for 2 min.-2 CP, 200 munitions, 5 min. recharge.

3)   Coordinated Strike: All the troops on the field of battle are coordinated on a single strike, as they gain more power when they work together. Artillery will fire in a coordinated pattern against any enemy positions you may find (bunkers, emplacements, and buildings of any variety) and the air will be filled with Stukas striking down any Tanks you may encounter. However, be aware that your infantry will be sluggish, your tanks will fire less accurately, and your supply lines will be flowing slowly (less resources coming in) for a short while after the end of your command- 5 CP, 400 manpower and 100 munitions, with a 4 minute recharge.

Army Group South: Stalingrad Fronts

Right Side: Rattenkrieg

1) Sapper School- All infantry now have the ability to place special explosives that can be used to destroy obstacles (tank-traps, detected mines, sandbags, and anything else in your way or bridges and buildings that are causing problems.-1 CP

2) Flames of Hell: All of your Sturmgrenadiers squads can now be upgraded with triple Flammenwefer 41. These powerful triple or even 6 man Flamethrowers squads are skilled in fighting off Infantry and assaulting buildings. Beware, tanks and vehicles are extremely good against your slower (due to the Flamenwerfers weight) infantry.-2 CP. (75 munitions per upgrade)

3)Infantries Bane- A Sturm-Infanteriegeschütz 33B is provided to the battlefield. This modified StuG III is an extremely powerful assault gun with a huge gun and MG that is designed to fight in close-quarters combat. However it’s AT-capabilities are lacking- 3 CP, 700 manpower, 10 pop.  Can only be deployed twice due to the vehicles rarity.

Left Side: Urban Support:

1)   Charge the Trench- For a short period of time makes all cover bonuses negative ( makes cover work in reverse while making negative cover even worse).- (2 CP, 100 Munitions)

2)   Italian Artillery Batteries- Italian Alpine troops bring in their heavy Artillery. Large barrages will be dropped on multiple targets within the sector it is called into with pin-point accuracy. This powerful, long and self-targeting barrages has just one weakness, the rounds it uses are incendiary and not too good against Tanks especially heavier ones- 2 CP, 100 munitions per shot

3)   The Tank Killer: A single Sturer Emil is provided to the front. This extremely powerful Tank Hunter has a huge 128 mm gun and can easily take out most tanks from range. However it cannot effectively engage Infantry, so keep it safe. Go get them Max.-3 CP, 700 manpower, 10 pop. Can only be deployed twice since, historically there were only two Sturer Emils- Max and Moritz.


Veterancy will be very special for these guys: You get it by doing a combo of things, staying on the battlefield, killing enemies, and seizing sectors (not capturing but, taking from the enemy) However, you can only get a certain level of veterancy for each one. With battlefield survivability you can reach only Veterancy 1. With capturing you can reach up to Veterancy 2 and if you haven’t already figured it out killing enemies can get you up to Veterancy 3.

Now each Veterancy and achievement style provides different upgrades.

For Vet.1-Time Survivability: For staying 5 min. on the battlefield you can either provide this squad with better capturing ability, or increased health.

Vet.1-Capturing- For seizing 3 sectors this vet. can be upgraded with swifter movement or better accuracy.

Vet.1- Killing- For killing 10 units your vet. is provided the ability to add an officer to replace a member of the squad. This officer increases morale and thus increases speed, accuracy, and makes them harder to suppress. The other upgrade is the addition of an extra soldier for the squad (with no pop space used up) who adds an extra gun to the squad, and thus gives better firepower and makes them harder to kill.

Vet.2-Capturing-For seizing 5 sectors your vets can be provided with the ability to gain the ability of suppressing fire.

Vet.2-Killing- For killing 15 units this squad gains a skilled marksman (replaces a member of the squad) who makes the squad see better in to the fog of war and gives them the ability to pull off a single barrage of well aimed bullets that can kill half a squad and severely injure the survivors (a single recharge takes 5 min. and costs 100 munitions per shoot) or a special soldier armed with a MG 42 that makes the squad more durable and provides the ability to unleash the entire squads weapons to force any squad caught in their fire to retreat, but in disarray so they are confused and easier to kill as they run into each other (also a 5 min. recharge with a cost of 100 munitions)

Vet. 3-Killing-For killing 20 units your unit is allowed to get the ability to ignore suppression (making them literally insuppressible) for a short period of time or giving them the ability to provide increased morale to all troops next to them (which gives them better accuracy, harder to suppress, better speed and increase in capturing rate)

As you can see this vet system is only for infantry. For tanks it is a bit easier but gives less advantages compared to the infantry. You can only get their vet. by killing units.

Vet.1- For getting 4 vehicle, or 2 tank, or 7 infantry kills this vet. gets the ability to deploy either smoke-screens or add extra armor to the vulnerable engine block (increasing the armor on the back of the tank and making engine damage less probable.
Vet.2- For getting 5 vehicle, 3 tanks or 16 infantry kills this vet is provided with the ability to use an Overdrive ability (for increased speed) or the ability to get a Tank Commander to provide recon with binoculars (thus giving the tank a higher range and sight into the fog of war, however a sniper can shoot the tank CO and kill him)
Vet.3- For getting 15 Vehicle, 8 Tank, or 23 infantry kills this crew have proven their skill to all. Allowed the chance to upgrade to a Veteran Gunning crew (which loads, faster shoots faster and is even more accurate) or the Veteran Driving crew (which increases speed, can repair the tank by themselves (must be stationary though), and allows better accuracy on the move).

Thanks for reading guys. I’d love to hear any suggestions you’d have for me. Oh and thanks to Venoxxis for orginization advice.

[Venoxxis]

this is unreadable man.
please try to make it more reader friendly to get some
repleys. for example use bold letters B using these [ b ][ /b ] and insert the text between them. (without the spaces).
Or simply mark your text and press the big B
which is above your "text editing window."

also use BIG font or colored to make your concept even easier to overview.

im sure with that its worth some replays.

[Venoxxis]

Concept orginally written by Neosdark, I just made it readable after all,
since its worth several replays.
There you go:



        Neosdark's Ostheer Concept


Okay this is my 2nd plan for the Ostheer and I find that it address the problems with too many similar units and too many call-ins, but hey everyone has opinions.




1. General Stuff

The idea would be to have an HQ in a base area that can be connected to the sectors through building special buildings that can produce units. The more sectors you control in this fashion (for a maximum of 5 buildings) the more units you can make. The buildings can create units depending on what sector they are in: base control points provide you with balanced vehicles and infantry, the fuel sectors that allow you to deploy powerful tanks and vehicles, and munition bases deploy powerful infantry.

 Each of these bases also comes with a slight buff to the resources recieved. A problem that this causes is that the main base does not come with MGs. Sturm-Pioneers, which create the buildings these guys use, can capture sectors swiftly, but cannot build defenses save for mines, and a small dugout that can be garrisoned by a Jaeger squad or a Volkssturm squad (if the Jaeger squad is inside the dugout it's covered by leaves and camouflaged with him).









2. Buldings



Ost-Operations Center


Produces:

Sturm-Pioneers [3 man squad, armed with 3 MP 3008s, upgrade with Mine Detectors, can capture swiftly and build mines and dugouts]




Universal Upgrades:

Uber-Blitz- increases the speed at which all units capture and allows garrisoned vehicles to capture. (500 manpower),

Defensive Operations- This upgrade allows you to train Defense Pioneers from the Operations Center and Infantry Command Barracks. This new emphasis on the defensive also allows for our Infantry to create trenches for free. These trenches can fit up to 7 people and/or 2 squads. (Sturm-Pioneers can still be produced) -200 Manpower, 10 Fuel.

High Command- Allows you to deploy the Obersturmführer command unit from the Infantry Command Barracks. As an additional preparation for the arrival of such a high ranking officer all Infantry (not Support) squads are given extra rations to improve their already high morale, thus making them fight better and march slightly quicker- 300 Manpower, 25 Fuel.









Ost-Recruitment Barracks (250 Manpower)

This building can only be built in the main base territory.


Produces:

Volkssturm [4 men, Armed with 2 MP 3008 and 2 Kar98k, with no special abilities this poorly trained squad of civillians is our first line of defense against any enemies we may encounter. Surely stronger and better equipped then a Soviet Conscript squad they are lacking in firepower and number against most other squads, 250 manpower, 4 pop.],

Kübelwagen- This light unarmored car, has an MG34 and a large sight radius. Use it to stalk snipers and scout out targets for artillery. Combines the speed of the Motorcycle and the reverse capabilities of the Schwimmwagen, so slightly more expensive.- 300 Manpower, 2 Pop.
 
Scharfschütze Der Ostfront [2 man sniper squad that is armed with a scoped StG-44 and 1 MP-40] Act similar in nature to the Russian sniper teams but have only 2 abilities and no artillery capabilities abilities, they instead have a full-auto sniper rifle and the abilities to camouflage (moving camo) and the ability to upgrade with another 2 members into the sniper squad creating the Jäger Band. (Jäger Band-a 4 man sniper squad with 1 scoped Kar98k, 1 scoped StG-44 and 2 StG-44. The Jaeger Band upgrade requires for the Wunderwaffen upgrade to be purchased and causes an increase in the pop cost by 2 and gives them more firepower, survivability and allows them to  fire of a high barrage of very accurate bullets which suppresses all soldiers in that squad(which costs 50 munitions, and has a 1 min recharge).) This upgrade itself costs 150 Munitions.  [350 manpower, 6 pop.]




Universal Upgrades:

Last Ditch Perfection Replace all Kar 98ks with VG-1-5 (costs 100 manpower)









The building that can be built on regular control points would be the
Ostheer Battalion Barracks(250 Manpower 20 Fuel):

Produces:

Sturmgrenadiers backbone of the Ostheer [6 man squad armed with MP 40, that can be upgraded with Suomi m/1931 and/or Gewehr 43s for better close or long-range combat (2 upgrade slots that upgrade 3 people for 1 upgrade), can use bundled grenades, 350 manpower, 6 pop.]

Panzer III- [with the 3.7 cm KwK 36 L/46.5 gun, that has 3 potential upgrades,

1)an upgrade to the larger 5 cm KwK 39 L/60,

2)a flamethrower upgrade to the Flammpanzer III (F1)  Flamethrower tank-a Flamethrower tank that can still use its main gun and has its hull-MG replaced with a flamethrower or

3) the Artillerie-Panzerbeobachungswagen III - Forward artillery observer tank that has a dummy gun that masks a MG 34 and a another MG 34 in the ball turret that has a large line of sight and can call in small Mortar Barrages. Either upgrade is 100 munitions each [500 manpower, 30 fuel, 5 pop. ],


Twin Mortar Squad- [5 men, armed with 1 MP-40, 1 5-cm leGrW 36 mortar and 1 8-cm sGrW 34 mortar, this 2 mortar squad is large but must be defended since there is only one free member, 350 Manpower, 5 pop. Can use Mortar Barrages and each mortar has its own barrage placement area (so u can target 2 areas at one time.)]

Boher 4.7 cm PaK- This PaK was designed by Austria’s military and a few fell into our hands during the Anschluss. Our Italian comrades love this gun so we decided to give it a try. Operated by 3 Italian gunners and 1 German officer this AT gun is good against Vehicles and Meduim tanks but lacks the firepower to take on heavier tanks and also has poor accuracy against smaller targets, so infantry are harder to hit. The difference in nationality between operators can sometimes cause confusion in orders and thus make them shoot at wrong targets, but for this loss they have a longer range and tend to aim for tanks more than vehicles. Can use Tungsten-core Shells for 50 munitions per Activation, lasts 30 seconds (200 Manpower, 20 fuel, 4 pop.)




Universal Upgrades:

Wunderwaffen-Exchanges all MP-40s and VG1-5 for StG-44s. (200 manpower, 20 fuel),   









The building on the fuel sector is the
Panzer Deployment Hanger (300 Manpower 40 Fuel):




Produces:

Panzer 4 Ausf. F1[Armed with short-barreled gun has 2 upgrade paths:


1) Conversion to the Panzer 4 Ausf. F2 with the longer barreled gun and MG 34/side skirt combo pack or


2) Have the turret replace to make it a Jagdpanzer 4 with a MG 34 and Zimmerit anti-mine paste (for mine protection)

Upgrades [Jagdpanzer IV]: F2 long-barrel, MG34 and side-skirt combo or Jagdpanzer 4 with MG 34 and Zimmerit anti-mine paste so those sticky bombs and mines work worse (either upgrade costs 100 munitions) (The Jagdpanzer 4 can camo), 450 manpower 40 fuel, 6 pop.
   



Panther Ausf A[ Lower speed then the Wehr and PE Panther, but similar gun this Panther is cheaper to make and takes up less population but is also easier to outrun for the T-34s, this Panther comes with a nasty surprise, researchable APCR rounds to make the T-34 even bigger scrap heaps and turn IS-2 into metal shavings. Upgrades MG 42/skirts and APCR rounds for added AT- capability (125 munitions) Cost 560 manpower 65 fuel, 9 pop. ]

Flakpanzer 38(t)[ Light converted tank armed with a single Flak 38, that is very good against planes and infantry this Flakpanzer is fast but has pretty light armor so it is easier to destroy than the comparable Ostwind or Wirblewind. 400 manpower, 30 fuel, 5 pop]



Universal Upgrades:

Forced Labor- All vehicles and tanks are manufactured at 1.5 the regular production speed letting our tanks arrive at the front faster. (300 manpower and 100 fuel)









The final building can only be built on munition sectors and it is the:
Infantry Command Barracks(200 MP 50 Fuel)

Produces:



SS-Panzergrenadiers [Powerful infantry that can mount Panzer 3s and 4s, these 5 man squads are armed with 5 MP-40s, these infantry can be upgraded with Panzerschrecks, G43 w/scope (allows for a single snipe shot for 10 munitions), MG 42s, captured PPSh-41s, or the SS weapon pack that comes with 1 MG42, 1 PPSh-41, 2 Panzerschreck, and 1 G43 to insure maximum capabilities against all targets for different situations (400 manpower, 6 population, have 5 weapons vacancy slots for 1 upgrade for each person)


Obersturmführer Command Squad- This officer unit comes with a personal bodyguard of 3 SS soldiers handpicked to guard your officer, making this a squad of 4 man, armed with 1 Walther PPK and 3 ZK 383. It is very similar to the Soviet Command Squad but has 3 different abilities:

1) The first ability is called Fanatic Inspiration which causes all soldiers to fight more ruthlessly and cause suppression much quicker and with all weaponry (even pistols),

2) The second ability is to call in Recon planes (so it functions like an expensive binoculars upgrade) to survey an area,
3) And the final ability to act like a “on the field” retreat point (just like the British captain) for a short period of time, so we can continue our blitz strike.- (The squad costs 320 Manpower and takes up 5 pop.)



Defense-Pioneers- [these 4 tough engineer units are armed with 4 G-41(W) and fulfill very similar in role to the British sappers, they can be equipped with Mine-Detectors, Twin Flamethrowers, and Advanced Repair. They also build mines, barbed wire, tank traps, and special Bunkers that can be upgraded with three separate upgrades:

1) A Flak Bunker with 2 Flak 38s on the roof designed to take on infantry and planes. This is a cheap alternative for the Flakpanzer 38(t), but stationary and with less range.

2) A special Medicinal Bunker that houses medics that treat soldiers wounds and can also be upgraded to repair vehicles in close proximity (NOTE: Do not recover soldiers in the field that are wounded).

3) Infiltration Bunker- a special bunker that allows you to move infantry from one bunker to another. You can only deploy 2 at a time and they help in moving troops from your base to the front and vice-versa, takes different amounts of time to get to the front depending on distances between bunkers. Bunkers cost 200 Manpower each, the upgrades are each 75 munitions. 300 manpower, 4 pop. Mines are 50 munitions and Tank Traps are free.]
 



Panzerwerfer 15 cm Panzerwerfer 42 auf Selbstfahrlafette Sd.Kfz.4/1- this halftrack is armed with 10 rocket pods and an MG 34 for self-defense. In reason it is similar to the Nebelwerfer but less accurate and shoots more rockets. Be aware though as the MG on this cannot suppress on the level of other MGs. 450 manpower, 20 fuel, 6 pop.]




Universal Upgrades:

Kraumlauf This special attachment can now be used by any squads equipped with StG 44. The Kraumlauf bent barrel increases the accuracy of any soldiers in cover and buildings.












3. Doctrines








Army Group North- Leningrad Siege

Right Side: Siege Craft



1)  Death’s Toll: A single shot is fired by a 24 cm Kanone 3 that does extreme damage to any units in its huge radius and suppresses all infantry within that sector- 2 CP. Costs 100 Munitions. Recharge 3 min.

2)   Chain of Command: Your Artillerie-Panzerbeobachtungswagen III can now request heavy artillery strikes on the enemy positions. You can choose to drop High-Explosive rounds or Incendiary rounds- 2 CP, 100 munitions per shoot, 1 minute recharge (If you use one of the shells on any particular tank you must recharge both on that tank ONLY.)

3)   Waffentrager Heuschrecke: This self-propelled 105-mm gun is very useful when you want mobile artillery. And it comes with a small surprise for the Soviet tanks, it can depress low enough to fire its cannon at them directly. Beware however; it has weak armor and isn’t fast so shoot in numbers and with range. It also takes a small amount of time to transition between artillery and straight-fire modes-3 CP, Cost 560 manpower and take up 10 population. Limit 3 per commander.



Left Side: Infantry Support

1) Strike Support-A SdKfz 6 halftrack has been provided to our comrades on the Soviet Front. This extremely large halftrack can fit 15 people or 3 squads. Has light armor so it can survive a few PTRD shots but don’t get too cocky. Functions as a mobile reinforcement point like most other halftracks. 350 Manpower, 5 pop.

2) Charge for Fatherland: Gives a small burst of speed to any squad in its radius and also makes them insuppressible, but after which they will become sluggish at movement and have horrid accuracy- 2 CP, 100 munitions, 2 min recharge time.

3) Gebirgsjäger Strike Squad- Armed with 2 MG 42 LMGs and 1 Scoped G43, this 3 man squad is extremely skilled at suppressing and sniping enemies from long to medium ranges. Armed to the teeth with Anti-Infantry weaponry, these soldiers can also throw Incendiary grenades and camouflage in heavy cover.- 560 Manpower, 6 pop.







Army Group Center-Moscow Front


Right Side: Panzer Support


1) S-mine-This new fangled system can now be installed on our tanks to provide Anti-Infantry defense on our tanks. It is extremely effective, but must be reloaded externally so it can only be recharged out of combat- 1CP, 50 munitions per use, 1 min to recharge (only recharged out of combat)

2) Repair Support- Mechanics can be slow, and I’m sure any good commander knows that we must keep our tanks going faster, more often then we’d like them going slow. So we at HQ have thought of an ingenious idea. A halftrack filled with Mechanics is provided to our commanders on the front. These quick and mobile Mechanics can quickly repair any of our damaged tanks from the safety of an armored halftrack. Beware though the exchange for a bullet-proof halftrack is that the mechanics repair a little slower than normal (so they faster than the Pioneers but slower then Soviet or any other Advanced Repair unit) -2CP, 400 Manpower, 5 pop.

3) Hell-Tiger [ACE]-What else can a commander dream of. A single Tiger I armed with HE rounds, AT rounds, smoke dispensers is now at your disposal. Its weakness is that it can easily be immobilized by getting just a few shoots into the treads so try not to let it get shot up much. Artillery is also a bit of a problem as their shells can easily destroy the intricate treads. Can only be deployed once.-4CP, 13 pop, 900 manpower.



Left Side: Blitzkrieg Tactics

1) Early Recon- Our early reconnaissance squads have done their job well. We can now see what sectors our enemies occupy, if they are secured or not and how many emplacements are present in their territories. It doesn’t show the Headquarters or Main Base (so the British can hide their emplacements behind their MAIN HEADQUARTERS TRUCK, not the other trucks, which are shown on the map) buildings or units in any sector. However whenever they build a new emplacement we will know about it.(Passive Ability)-2 CP

2) Unleash the Reserves: Gives any squads in its large radius automatic reinforcement to maximum capacity and makes them fire faster, with renewed vigor, unfortunately the use of our reserves makes getting reinforcements at the headquarters or forward HQ impossible for 2 min.-2 CP, 200 munitions, 5 min. recharge.

3) Coordinated Strike: All the troops on the field of battle are coordinated on a single strike, as they gain more power when they work together. Artillery will fire in a coordinated pattern against any enemy positions you may find (bunkers, emplacements, and buildings of any variety) and the air will be filled with Stukas striking down any Tanks you may encounter. However, be aware that your infantry will be sluggish, your tanks will fire less accurately, and your supply lines will be flowing slowly (less resources coming in) for a short while after the end of your command- 5 CP, 400 manpower and 100 munitions, with a 4 minute recharge.







Army Group South: Stalingrad Fronts


Right Side: Rattenkrieg


1) Sapper School- All infantry now have the ability to place special explosives that can be used to destroy obstacles (tank-traps, detected mines, sandbags, and anything else in your way or bridges and buildings that are causing problems.-1 CP

2) Flames of Hell: All of your Sturmgrenadiers squads can now be upgraded with triple Flammenwefer 41. These powerful triple or even 6 man Flamethrowers squads are skilled in fighting off Infantry and assaulting buildings. Beware, tanks and vehicles are extremely good against your slower (due to the Flamenwerfers weight) infantry.-2 CP. (75 munitions per upgrade)

3)Infantries Bane- A Sturm-Infanteriegeschütz 33B is provided to the battlefield. This modified StuG III is an extremely powerful assault gun with a huge gun and MG that is designed to fight in close-quarters combat. However it’s AT-capabilities are lacking- 3 CP, 700 manpower, 10 pop.  Can only be deployed twice due to the vehicles rarity.


Left Side: Urban Support

1) Charge the Trench- For a short period of time makes all cover bonuses negative ( makes cover work in reverse while making negative cover even worse).- (2 CP, 100 Munitions)

2) Italian Artillery Batteries - Italian Alpine troops bring in their heavy Artillery. Large barrages will be dropped on multiple targets within the sector it is called into with pin-point accuracy. This powerful, long and self-targeting barrages has just one weakness, the rounds it uses are incendiary and not too good against Tanks especially heavier ones- 2 CP, 100 munitions per shot

3) The Tank Killer: A single Sturer Emil is provided to the front. This extremely powerful Tank Hunter has a huge 128 mm gun and can easily take out most tanks from range. However it cannot effectively engage Infantry, so keep it safe. Go get them Max.-3 CP, 700 manpower, 10 pop. Can only be deployed twice since, historically there were only two Sturer Emils- Max and Moritz.












4. Veterancy


Veterancy will be very special for these guys: You get it by doing a combo of things, staying on the battlefield, killing enemies, and seizing sectors (not capturing but, taking from the enemy) However, you can only get a certain level of veterancy for each one. With battlefield survivability you can reach only Veterancy 1. With capturing you can reach up to Veterancy 2 and if you haven’t already figured it out killing enemies can get you up to Veterancy 3.





Now each Veterancy and achievement style provides different upgrades:

Here: Infantry



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For Vet.1-Time Survivability: For staying 5 min. on the battlefield you can either provide this squad with better capturing ability, or increased health.


Vet.1-Capturing- For seizing 3 sectors this vet. can be upgraded with swifter movement or better accuracy.


Vet.1- Killing- For killing 10 units your vet. is provided the ability to add an officer to replace a member of the squad. This officer increases morale and thus increases speed, accuracy, and makes them harder to suppress. The other upgrade is the addition of an extra soldier for the squad (with no pop space used up) who adds an extra gun to the squad, and thus gives better firepower and makes them harder to kill.




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Vet.2-Capturing-For seizing 5 sectors your vets can be provided with the ability to gain the ability of suppressing fire.


Vet.2-Killing- For killing 15 units this squad gains a skilled marksman (replaces a member of the squad) who makes the squad see better in to the fog of war and gives them the ability to pull off a single barrage of well aimed bullets that can kill half a squad and severely injure the survivors (a single recharge takes 5 min. and costs 100 munitions per shoot) or a special soldier armed with a MG 42 that makes the squad more durable and provides the ability to unleash the entire squads weapons to force any squad caught in their fire to retreat, but in disarray so they are confused and easier to kill as they run into each other (also a 5 min. recharge with a cost of 100 munitions)





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Vet. 3-Killing-For killing 20 units your unit is allowed to get the ability to ignore suppression (making them literally insuppressible) for a short period of time or giving them the ability to provide increased morale to all troops next to them (which gives them better accuracy, harder to suppress, better speed and increase in capturing rate)










For tanks it is a bit easier but gives less advantages compared to the infantry. You can only get their vet. by killing units.

Here: Tanks


Vet.1- For getting 4 vehicle, or 2 tank, or 7 infantry kills this vet. gets the ability to deploy either smoke-screens or add extra armor to the vulnerable engine block (increasing the armor on the back of the tank and making engine damage less probable.

Vet.2- For getting 5 vehicle, 3 tanks or 16 infantry kills this vet is provided with the ability to use an Overdrive ability (for increased speed) or the ability to get a Tank Commander to provide recon with binoculars (thus giving the tank a higher range and sight into the fog of war, however a sniper can shoot the tank CO and kill him)

Vet.3- For getting 15 Vehicle, 8 Tank, or 23 infantry kills this crew have proven their skill to all. Allowed the chance to upgrade to a Veteran Gunning crew (which loads, faster shoots faster and is even more accurate) or the Veteran Driving crew (which increases speed, can repair the tank by themselves (must be stationary though), and allows better accuracy on the move).

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Thanks for reading guys. I’d love to hear any suggestions you’d have for me. Oh and thanks to Venoxxis for orginization advice.


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Okaay that was A LOT of work but i hope it was worth the work xD im done now x.x

You will get a replay from me as well, but now i need to relax some time first since that was a wall of text. I fixed serveral things not only the formating, also the translating problems for example. I added a few things as well, like numbers and so on, just to make it more clear.


Regards,
-V-

[neosdark]

Thanks man i really suck at organizing things. I should just try and make it more spaced out i guessed, i just dislike making my comp store extra data. Sorry for taking your time from you I'm sure u have better things to do. Anyway looking forward to your review .

[Venoxxis]

Okay, here we go - i finally found some time to analize your concept.

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Your general build-up idea of the buldings is really pretty orgnial. i like it on the whole, my cousin had similiar ideas once. It would make them mobile, i mean they do need to be mobile like this. That makes it compareable to the real OH.

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The Ost Operation Center (HQ?) is ok and interesting with its upgrades for futher buildings.

The Ost recruitment barrack comes along with 3 units. 2 of them are nice, but the 3rd one isnt after all. The sniper. Since again another 2 man sniper team would be boring. This reason is to strong for me to watch ofter it for several changes. Also a sniper squard would be OP, just as discussed in several topics already.

The Ostheer Bat. Barr.'s & Panzer deployment hanger - a variable Panzer III is cool, just like in my concept there are several upgrades useable. The 3rd one looks really nice But if you got a Panzer III, you dont need a Panzer IV into your concept, they are too similiar.
Also the late versions of the P3 are very compareable in armour to the ones of the P4.
The twin mortal .. hmmh i dont know.. it sounds OP and it definitly will op - in my eyes.
The PAK is cool.
Your Panther than sounds like a huge badass. Nice. Considering balance, this Panther should still be realizable.

Flakpanzer 38(t) ? *Thumps up*


Infantry Command Barracks brings heavy elite inf. The SS squard is a powerhouse. Maybe too powerfull..
Another Commandsquard? I think the OH doesnt need such things because they are too similiar to the ones of the USSR.
The Def pios are great, i love their abilites as well. good ideas here.
The Panzerwerfer is okay yea, but too similiar to the Kat.


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After the buldings and units, lets have a look at the docs. In general the naming of the docs is okay, but maybe it doesnt give enough feeling and a later use of the OH in the campain where you could select army group south in the north of the USSR would be just strange.


Army group north is well done. no questions here. Just the Heuschrecke was extremely seldom build and it was just a prototype.


Army group center look pretty similiar to the breaktrough doc somehow. The Tiger Ace is a powerfull beast, maybe balanceable, but should def. cost more pop. But i wont be speaking about costs here since that is a balance issue.


Army group south is badass. But cool, the Emil is just a bastard vehicle which shoule make it somehow in the Ostheer even if only 2 were build. The sturmgeschütz ur suggesting was also very seldom build, thats why i would prefer choosing the Brummbär here.


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Vet is just strange Somehow i couldnt find a way liking it. Its too complicated and gaining it wont be that cool after all. Thats why i suggest using a simple vet-sys like the way of putting all ex. togehter in one building and getting the vet for all units than in 3 levels. or the even simpler "ace-system".







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Nice concept after all its worth more replays than this.


Regards,
-V-

[neosdark]

Ok my friend thank you for the review but I have a few counter-arguements.

For the sniper- The reason i made the squad similar to the Russian squad is because in fact after Stalingrad that's how German sniper teams looked.

The reason i added the Sniper Band is because I would like to give the sniper more life, since a single or two man sniper squad is seldom effective against late-game/powerhouse Infantry (Guards, Rangies, Paras, Commandos) and they are pretty balanced out because only two snipers are present the others are guards/spoters, you need to have a 3/4 tier building upgrade to access them and then i was acttually planning to take away their moving camo and just give them a higher range, but I forgot to .



Now the Panzer 3 and Panzer 4 arguement. I know that they are similar and have known this for some time. But as a large supporter of the idea that all must be historicly accurate i like making things more Historicly Accurate.

My first prototype of the Ost (i didn't post it cause it was wayyyyyyy to confusing) had a Panzer 4 as a Command style tank (radios and all such things similar to the Panzer3 3rd upgrade) while the Panzer 3 was a MBT. Perhaps you would prefer that kind of arrangement and instead make the 3rd upgrade for the Panzer 3 to be a StuG 3 to make room for the most made AFV .



With the SS Panzer-grenadiers I was originally planning an extremly mobile (hence ability to ride P4 and P3) and powerful (because of the SS ruthlessness) Anti-Infantry squad. But the problem is that the SS used the best weaponry and if i wanted to make that seen (that they are SS, cause i know we can't use that name) they must have the best weaponry and the most diverse weapons so they have everything i could think off without making them KCH on steroids.

But i do have a solution for it if you would like to hear. I would take away their P-schreck and instead give them an AT-rifle (perhaps PB 39 7.92mm rifle but I would personally like to see the Solothurn S1000 cause it just looks cool and has a huge round) so they have another AI weapon but can now take out light armor (Stuarts and such vehicles). They can't fight heavy armor however and that will be their weakness.   



As for the CO squad i find that every group must have an Officer and was very surprised when i found the Americans without, at minimum a Liutenant because the Americans caused havoc using the CO radios to call in artillery. Know while it is similar yes but they have prety much the same job so yea they have to be the same.

 If you want i can remove him but in his stead i would then need to add a new ability to the Ost Command Center perhaps give access to deploy the Jagdpanzer 4 as a Panzer 4 upgrade. 



Now for Doctrines:

Army Group Center should be like Breakthrough because it had a to attack a huge plain with Cross-Country mobility as its #1 priority. As for the Tiger it is very powerful but like i said in my post just a few (2-3) shots in to the side will destroy the treads while a few shoots in the back will kill off the engine. I'm doing this to show the early Tiger's weakness.

The Heuschreeke was rare but i put it in because it was designed to work on the Eastern Front and it did in fact operate. The Sturm-Infanteriegeschütz 33B was indeed rare but it served in and near Stalingrad and in fact I choose to put it in  because of this and its use.



As for the Veterancy i completly agree with you but i couldn't think of anything else. Thanks for the advice on the systems but i will try to think of something even more unique.

Anyway mate thanks again for your review,

CLOSED
because of new version.
Lord Rommel - DEV