Viktor Suvorov- Fact or Fiction

[Dann88]

Now I understand, what neosdark would say is from Viktor Suvorov story, Stalin had plan to attack first, depsite the preparation wasn't completed or completed on paper (I think you will understand when a general have to report good result to Stalin or he will be executed ) right?

[neosdark]

Just read his book, its available in English and Russian and tons of other languages.

[Tankbuster]

ISBN number please.

[Paciat]

Paciat I don't know where you heard about the lack of HE shells, in fact those were in good supply before the war, AT shells not so much, but HE were always available. As you said that's a propaganda video, just like the Polish Cavalry charge against German Panzers.

Ive read it in this book.

Only the new T-34 and KV guns lacked shells. Maybe it was becouse of the war confusion. Im sure those shells were somewhere, but not in the tanks.

[Red_Stinger]

@neosdark

I didnt read the entire book, but I'm well aware of each point the author assert as a fact. The fact that he did take into account what was interesting for his theory and left behind other information is quite informative of his objectives.
The fact that, I repeat, EVERY specialist of the eastern front do not believe his theory is sufficiant by itself for me.
There is a lot a evidence that the Ice-Breaker is probably in fact just a provocating book written for money rather than for historical truth.

1) I repeat, at that time paradrop maneuvre were impossible to the red air force considering his state, and most paratroopers werent real soldiers, just civilians volunteers whom performed training in paradrop.

2) I'm not Stalin. Before going into an argument, please, please, be at least informed of the subject. Just study the eastern front sometime, and then you will understand a lot of things considering the Ice-Breaker theory.

3) I would be pleased if you could effectively provide some fact from real archive, supposing you have access to them, instead of providing some numbers from wikipédia and link it to the global strategical situation of the Red Army. Su-2 were shit, that's why the production stopped, nothing else. And considering the production capabilities of the USSR in 1942, 910 is a very, very small number, which prohibit one to assert statement based on it.



And if you really think that the Area 51 hides aliens, it's not surprising that you believe to Vladimir Rezun's theory, sorry.

[Sturmovik]

Victor Suvorov in company of true russian historicans is rated like filthy dog.
Hi does not wrote with many unsecreted documents & have very Western point of view.
One of the greatest modern historical writer - Alexey Isaev & some more oldest other writers already wrote many books about Suvorovs "point of view".

And the last thing ... his last "home" is England. Good Soviet/Riussian historican live in his true homeland. There are many proves about his pro-western anti-soviet position. In my country almost 98% true readers historical books & WW2 history fans feel real hate with his name.

P.S.: Some time ago Suvorov have an "apprentice" ... but that not for a long time ... His apprentice soon can see not actual & abstract charges ... He turned his anger against Suvorovs "historical savage ..."

Today, russian i-net & bookshelfs of the shops have many published books & documents collections, Stalins books of the visitors, unsecreted Beriya notes & large mass of unsecreted documents of the USSR Country Security Service ...
Those facts is avoided by the Suvorov & those "saboteurs" ... May be they are does not know the russian language & does not want to read russian historical books?

(Some of those books known like "Большая ложь малеьнкого человека" (Big Lie of the little man), "Неправда Виктора Суворова" (Not true of the V. Suvorov), "Антисуворов" (Antisuvorov) & ect ... )
Some books have very big list of authors ... Today, Suvorovs books is feels with outburst, or laughter ...

[HyperSniper999]

Was this guy by chance at all related to the late 18th century Fieldmarshal Alexander Suvorov?

[neosdark]

No its actually a cover (or pen name if you will) for a man named Vladimir Rezun, but the rest of his story is in fact true