SU AI doctrinal spam

[Raelity]

Hey, I'm not sure if this is the correct place to put this but I've noticed a lot of doctrinal spam by the SU AI in 1.40. The other AI changes are great by the way (more use of abillities really changes things up) however in every game I've played so far the soviets have spammed Naval infantry, in most cases having no other units for the majority of the game. Is this doctrinal spam tendency something hard to remove from the AI?

[IJoe]

Hey, I'm not sure if this is the correct place to put this but I've noticed a lot of doctrinal spam by the SU AI in 1.40. The other AI changes are great by the way (more use of abillities really changes things up) however in every game I've played so far the soviets have spammed Naval infantry, in most cases having no other units for the majority of the game. Is this doctrinal spam tendency something hard to remove from the AI?

They "spammed" it, 'cause these units are the best choice (cost/effectiveness) you have with that doctrine chosen. So there's no real spam involved, since a lot of people would do just the same.

[Raelity]

I couldn't think of another word but spam for when a player uses only one unit. They may be effective in the early game, but once armour is out they become fairly useless. I'm just saying it doesn't make for an entertaining or challenging game against them.

[Cranialwizard]

Basically this happens with soviets because the AI gets "Stuck"


I thought they addressed this problem but to no avail.

The reason it happens is that if you make an upgrade in the armory while you have a unit that you are upgrading in production and the armory finishes first, the unit won't produce but it will be stuck on the que. The AI is not smart enough to cancel it, therefore blocking production in their buildings. Which means they have to basically call in units to fight as a last ditch effort.

Example:

You are making a Strelky, but your Red banner upgrade finishes about 1/2 a minute before your Strelky hits the field. The Strelky won't be a Normal OR Red banner, instead it will sit on the que until you cancel the order.

The AI can't cancel the order. It sits in limbo.

[IJoe]

The best way to address it would be making it possible for units already ordered before the upgrade to be produced.
It's a really stupid Relic "feature" IMO.

And NI gets PTRD with the heavy weapons pack, while DP from that same pack is somewhat hurting to light armor as well (just a side-note).