Finland and winter war

[Seeme]

I hate I hate I hate I hate I hate I hate I hate I hate I hate I hate I hate I hate I hate I hate I hate how you all say "I rather have realism over fun." I just makes me mad!

COH TURNS REALISM INTO FUN!

IF ITS NOT TO REAL- IT ISNT FUN! I DONT WANNA HERE IT EVER AGIAN! NEXT TIME I HERE IT, AM GUNNA DO MORE THAN A ANNOYING POST!

[Versedhorison]

Seeme if your post is directed at me then I agree a game should be more fun than realistic. Thats why I hate Gran Turismo for example. All I'm saying is to keep with the way relic has set it (in this case the setting of 1944) and make it fun but not making it get too unrealistic. Being fun is the main point but having some realism makes the game fun too.

[Seeme]

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     You only get half of what am saying. There is no such thing as "more fun then realism" Because.. well.. I will explain.



Pretend this is the real story.------> **

Theres not much fun in it, right? I mean, its interesting but not fun.

Now, this is the fun ------> @@

You cant just do this ----> "lets put in fun, but some realism" a.k.a *@@.

No, what is the fun??? The fun is you acting out the realism!

How fun would it for you to make D-Day into a think under your commande? It happen and it sould be just like d-day so it would make it seem fun as if you actually in D-Day? YOu are D-Day! Now, lets change it alitte and pretend that the germans sent a couple king tigers the beach to help. "Dont worry, at least it makes it more fun." But tell me, would you play that?


NO MORE!

[Versedhorison]

I understood what you said in your first post but your second post is making little sense. Of course a game should be fun that's why people play it but if its a game based of something in real life so in this case its a WWII RTS game. This game CoH is a very fun game because it has been done so well due to its good gameplay, impressive sound, graphics and physics engine that make the game look realistic. Although the game isn't 100% realistic eg the way units retreat, the range of weapons and 57mm guns being able to penetrate tigers front armour its done for the fun and balance. Although it is realistic in the way the game is presented how things like suppression works, the manpower/ammo/fuel resources and how vehicles can suffer weapon/engine damage at times.

CoH by relic is based in 1944 due to the campaign but the all of the factions are designed to suit this. Although the EF probably wasn't (although I don't know for sure) designed with a 1944 setting specifically It still suits this setting fine.

Now when I speak of realism in terms of how I in my opinion find it in this case is just to keep factions as close to the setting of the game and its premise. However I am not one who would want to change the gameplay for realism which would compromise the fun of it as that would make it lame.

At this point I only have one differing view on keeping factions close to the setting is that regarding the retreat of  ability of the soviets.

I hope this clarifies my opinions.

[Akalonor]

I hope to clerify that the Game is Set in WWII , not 44, not 43 , its just based in WWII, the war was 6 years in Europe, this mod is simply the Eastern front, well guess who fought on the Eastern front, Germany, Finland, Russia, Romania, Hungary, Croatia, Slovakia, Poland, And you say that its unrealistic to represent any of these Belligerents? 

I agree with Seeme, this 'game' in Reality is a nightmare, a bloody mess and a mistake, yet it was turned it into something fun for the sake of fun, if this was 100% realistic it wouldn't be very fun, war is anything but fun,but  this game ignores the aspect of uttermost accuracy for the trade in of whats playable and enjoyable.

[Cranialwizard]

I back Akalonor's points with this Versedhorison:

COH is NOT based on 44'. Please remove this thought.
COH is NOT based on 43'. DO NOT think that.
COH is NOT based on 45'. DO NOT think that.

CoH is based on WWII. That's it. Not a specific year. WWII.

The CAMPAIGNS are based on specific dates, times, and years. But just because the campaigns are on a time line doesn't mean EVERYTHING ELSE is.

It's because the CAMPAIGNS have historic value, they are based on real time lines.

Yes, a lot of the classic maps are Normandy, does that mean that they HAD to be fought in 44'?

They could have been fought @ when the French were ATTEMPTING to defend their country. (Note:When Relic published the first CoH, Americans were named Allies, preempting that all allies grouped together to make the faction)

[comrade2012]

seriously. also, think about other games like Battlefield 1942.  it said 1942 but it had battles from every year of the war. CoH can do it too.

[Hurson]

NO

[Gerrit 'Lord Rommel' G.]

It is nice that u fought about the year of CoH.
When i'm informed right this thread was a "petition"
for the finish army and so for "an other theater"...

[Akalonor]

For those of you that don't get it let me act it out ....
*Rommel walks in *
*Rommel walks up to people having a conversation*
*SLAP*
"You are all very off topic for a pointless reason!!"
*Rommel Walks out*
Ta-da!

Back to Topic: I think we've all agreed that Finland will not likely be represented in the Ostheer.

[Versedhorison]

I back Akalonor's points with this Versedhorison:

COH is NOT based on 44'. Please remove this thought.
COH is NOT based on 43'. DO NOT think that.
COH is NOT based on 45'. DO NOT think that.

CoH is based on WWII. That's it. Not a specific year. WWII.

The CAMPAIGNS are based on specific dates, times, and years. But just because the campaigns are on a time line doesn't mean EVERYTHING ELSE is.

It's because the CAMPAIGNS have historic value, they are based on real time lines.

Yes, a lot of the classic maps are Normandy, does that mean that they HAD to be fought in 44'?

They could have been fought @ when the French were ATTEMPTING to defend their country. (Note:When Relic published the first CoH, Americans were named Allies, preempting that all allies grouped together to make the faction)

If CoH is based in WWII then the fact that some factions use late war weapons like king tigers, pershings, jagdpanthers would suggest that the game is generally based in 1944 or 1945. Although broadly you can say it is based in WWII since it is a WWII game.

It is nice that u fought about the year of CoH.
When i'm informed right this thread was a "petition"
for the finish army and so for "an other theater"...

I know isn't thread derailment fun XD

[Akalonor]

Okay well we ended it and you are now trying to start it, I'm done trying to get through to you