Company of Heroes: Eastern Front

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Title: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Blackbishop on April 24, 2012, 01:14:31 AM
(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6046/stalinweneedyousmallv3.jpg)

Hello Eastern Front fans,

We have recently opened a new section titled "Jobs (http://www.moddb.com/mods/coheastern-front/jobs)" at ModDB where we list the positions that are open in the Eastern Front Team.

At the moment we need:
For more information about the desired position please click on the link.

We also take this chance to tell you that we are havne't stopped to work on Ostheer, here we have a couple of pics for the Infantry Post Gruppen:
(http://www.majhost.com/gallery/blackbishop/Temp/tier-1a.jpg)
Tier 1a (http://www.majhost.com/gallery/blackbishop/Temp/tier-1b.jpg)

(http://www.majhost.com/gallery/blackbishop/Temp/tier-1b.jpg)
Tier 1b (http://www.majhost.com/gallery/blackbishop/Temp/tier-1b.jpg)


And we also present you, the official layout of Ostheer(for the Alpha):
(http://www.majhost.com/gallery/blackbishop/Temp/ostheer_tech_tree.png) (http://www.majhost.com/gallery/blackbishop/Temp/ostheer_tech_tree.png)
Ostheer layout (http://www.majhost.com/gallery/blackbishop/Temp/ostheer_tech_tree.png)


After some discussions, we have decided to remove some units and at the end this is how Ostheer is going to be entering to the Alpha(at least the tech structure). We hope in this way balance would be easier to achieve.

The Beta will start soon :)... our balancers will approach to Ostheer and work with it, after that the closed Beta might extend to Donors and special guests ;).

Regards,
Eastern Front Development Team
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Pac-Fish on April 24, 2012, 01:17:53 AM
Looks Cool :D. I would apply for either balance or Beta Testing but that's up for discussion I guess :P. And plus Im not that great of a player and don't know what to look for :P
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: MBJrP36 on April 24, 2012, 01:39:40 AM
Looks Cool :D. I would apply for either balance or Beta Testing but that's up for discussion I guess :P. And plus Im not that great of a player and don't know what to look for :P
IMO, you sound like a great canidate Cat Fishy.

I'll scrounge up more cash to donate. Keep up the good work guys :)
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Pac-Fish on April 24, 2012, 01:41:28 AM
LOL but I lack computer knowledge or skill XD. And the most "art" I can do is on photoshop ;D
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: stealthattack1 on April 24, 2012, 02:16:21 AM
if you guys need more, i could be a balancer. im not the highest ranked, but i know the counters and can play the game. if you want to have tryouts or something just pm me. atm my screen is broken, but im planning on getting that fixed on may 1st.
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Alexander 'ApeMen' J. on April 24, 2012, 02:27:35 AM
if you like you can have a 1vs1 against our good old fishhunter :P
500vp normal ress map can be more or less any 1vs1^^

would be also nice to see a rematch (only should always play soviets so we can see how your knowledge about soviets works ingame :P)

at least for everyone who is interested in becomming a balancers, its the same^^
so you dont need to play all vs fishhunter :P
but you should keep in mind 1vs1 games with 500vp and normal ress
the one who wants to become balancer should play at least soviets (sounds logical or?)
for the decition if you fit or not its also not important if you win or loose the game
more important is how you played it

and your enemy should be ~ at the same skill level or better
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Pac-Fish on April 24, 2012, 02:31:24 AM
LOL I am certainly not the deciding factor in this XD. But I guess I am the bench mark. If you beat me, you're above noob lvl. If you don't you need work XD. Or having a bad day ;).

ANd I agree, you could be a pro at vCOH but if you cant play SU for your life then you can't be a balancer :-\.
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Trooper425 on April 24, 2012, 04:55:48 AM
The SU req makes a lot of sense, before anyone complains or asks why: Ostheer and Soviets are meant to play against each other. Wher and PE have their ups and downs against SU, but Ostheer... ltes just say they were MADE fro each other.
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Tankbuster on April 24, 2012, 08:23:04 AM
Great job on the techtree, looks ... Understandable, unlike what I thought it would be. BTW what is that truck doing there?
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Walentin 'Walki' L. on April 24, 2012, 09:44:03 AM
The Opel is the OP of the Ostheer.
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Tankbuster on April 24, 2012, 10:10:07 AM
Very nice, very original.
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Walentin 'Walki' L. on April 24, 2012, 10:27:54 AM
Very nice, very original.

Well it's a little more complicated.

Aren´t there many unemployed 2D artists already in the team? Why you need even more?

The only hard working 2D artist is Apeman.

Ape is a specialist when it comes to icons but we need someone who is able to unwrap UVW maps in 3ds max, so it's basicly a job for a 3d Artist, so we can unload our head 3d Artist "Burro".
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Mr.ious.Q on April 24, 2012, 12:18:55 PM
Uh guys, could i ask for what happened to the panzerfusilier and the flak 38 team, and the opel blitz is now ofiicial for the OH ?
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Walentin 'Walki' L. on April 24, 2012, 02:09:11 PM
Flak38 team has been removed because it wasn't needed anymore as you are already able to build flak38 emplacements.
The Panzerfusilier were moved to the Forward Support Center (not on the screenshot). This building will get explained another time.
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Tankbuster on April 24, 2012, 02:15:29 PM
Very nice, very original.
Well it's a little more complicated.

What do you mean by complicated?
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Alexander 'ApeMen' J. on April 24, 2012, 02:34:08 PM
he means that the way ostheer secures sectors and got more ress is a totaly other way then any other faction has^^
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Tankbuster on April 24, 2012, 03:04:29 PM
Thats what they said about the British.
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Otto Halfhand on April 24, 2012, 03:14:21 PM
Flak38 team has been removed because it wasn't needed anymore as you are already able to build flak38 emplacements.
The Panzerfusilier were moved to the Forward Support Center (not on the screenshot). This building will get explained another time.
I've been wondering about the missing Tech building.
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Alexander 'ApeMen' J. on April 24, 2012, 03:19:06 PM
in fact its not a tech building
its a FHQ


Thats what they said about the British.

dont worry its not like brits :P
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: ubermensche on April 24, 2012, 03:20:32 PM
The Panzerfusilier were moved to the Forward Support Center (not on the screenshot). This building will get explained another time.

So the OH will have a 5th building?
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Alexander 'ApeMen' J. on April 24, 2012, 03:22:11 PM
there is just HQ -> Tier1 - > Tier2 -> Tier3
thats the ostheer tech tree

and they can have a FHQ but this is not a Tier or a tech building
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: mads on April 24, 2012, 03:43:03 PM
Helo
It's nice to see that something is happening :P It all looks great and it's especially great to see that ostheer get their own base buildings. Maybe a little too much concrete, but if there was laid a few banners and some tin roofs on some places then it would be mega super cool. and perhaps a search light on top of t1 or something like that.

How do they upgrade different units? And how doo they secure sectorer? And which units can be bought from FHQ? And and and and?
 ???
how long does it take approximately before ostheer comes, weeks, months?
COMEON TELL ME SOMETHING ;D
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Partyzan1917cz on April 24, 2012, 03:49:20 PM
What about take Flak team to reward units for Ostheer?
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Zerstörer on April 24, 2012, 04:09:28 PM
Thread cleaned up. Please stick to posting on what the thread is about, not random things (flaming etc).

Thanks
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Walentin 'Walki' L. on April 24, 2012, 04:15:04 PM
Maybe a little too much concrete, but if there was laid a few banners [...]

There are enough banners on the Ostheer buildings you just can't see them from that angle :P
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Dann88 on April 24, 2012, 05:27:44 PM
Burro made 2 models of Opel Blitz, a ammo carrier and a fuel one. I hope seeing those in action. :(
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 24, 2012, 05:36:07 PM
Actually those models are both Relic-made. They were just unused so we took them  ;D
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Dann88 on April 24, 2012, 05:39:59 PM
Bah... But obviously they're more cooler than the infantry transport one :P
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: MBJrP36 on April 24, 2012, 07:17:28 PM
Actually those models are both Relic-made. They were just unused so we took them  ;D
What other hidden gems did you find?
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 24, 2012, 08:12:34 PM
Well, two of Ostheers base buildings are based on a certain unused variant of the mortar bunker - Walki modified the model and animated it; the third however he created on his own. ;)
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Walentin 'Walki' L. on April 24, 2012, 08:17:43 PM
Well, two of Ostheers base buildings are based on a certain unused variant of the mortar bunker - Walki modified the model and animated it; the third however he created on his own. ;)

Eh no, actually only the Tier 2 building is based on the mortar bunker.
Tier 1 and tier 3 use only the relic texture and were made by me.
Stop tellin' liezzz! :D
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: MBJrP36 on April 24, 2012, 08:20:29 PM
Cool none the less.  8)
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 24, 2012, 08:21:22 PM
Eh no, actually only the Tier 2 building is based on the mortar bunker.
Tier 1 and tier 3 use only the relic texture and were made by me.
Stop tellin' liezzz! :D

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1xsp4stKa1qeouxk.jpg)
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: ubermensche on April 25, 2012, 12:35:10 AM
there is just HQ -> Tier1 - > Tier2 -> Tier3
thats the ostheer tech tree

and they can have a FHQ but this is not a Tier or a tech building

And the FHQ is where the Panzerfusiliers will be deployed?
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Alexander 'ApeMen' J. on April 25, 2012, 01:10:27 AM
there is just HQ -> Tier1 - > Tier2 -> Tier3
thats the ostheer tech tree

and they can have a FHQ but this is not a Tier or a tech building

And the FHQ is where the Panzerfusiliers will be deployed?

yes^^
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: ubermensche on April 25, 2012, 02:08:40 AM
there is just HQ -> Tier1 - > Tier2 -> Tier3
thats the ostheer tech tree

and they can have a FHQ but this is not a Tier or a tech building

And the FHQ is where the Panzerfusiliers will be deployed?

yes^^

Awesome! I was quite upset when I thought that they were removed...
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Mass Killer DL on April 25, 2012, 02:56:52 AM
Looking good guys :)

It made me sad not to see the Pak 36 and Mobile Flak 38

Even though the PaK 36 would be useless unless used with the Stielgranate 41, I still think it would be fun firing and dinging off most Vehicles :p

FlaK 38 would be awesome at mowing down Infantry, that would definitely of held back those pesky conscript swarms

But your the Dev's and what you say goes, so i'm not going to argue with you xP
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: MBJrP36 on April 25, 2012, 03:24:30 AM
"Army Door Knocking Device" RIP. :'(
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: neosdark on April 25, 2012, 04:32:18 AM
I'm gonna guess that you were able to implement the old "Use the Opel as a vehicle to move resources from sector to base (or off map) to secure the sector" thing that Paciat (if I recall correctly he proposed it), and other Old Guard players used to pray for back then (2 or so years ago).
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Pac-Fish on April 25, 2012, 04:33:11 AM
Sounds sophisticated :P. Hope my games don't lag XD
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Blackbishop on April 25, 2012, 05:51:12 AM
I can say, the two things that gave too much problems while coding were:

1) Veterancy for Ostheer units
2) Opel Blitz securing system(not what you describe btw ^^)

Everything else wasn't that difficult :P.
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: neosdark on April 25, 2012, 05:53:57 AM
Ahh okay, it was nice to see that the Opel was still implemented in the securing system
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 25, 2012, 12:11:04 PM
It made me sad not to see the Pak 36 and Mobile Flak 38

Which doesn't mean you won't see them at all ;)
There's still a campaign..
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Mr.ious.Q on April 25, 2012, 02:20:51 PM
Hmm, why not making the flak 38 airborne, can you make it as a paradrop unit in the Army support troops, the Luftwaffe support tree ? Anything wrong ?
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Walentin 'Walki' L. on April 25, 2012, 02:34:07 PM
Hmm, why not making the flak 38 airborne, can you make it as a paradrop unit in the Army support troops, the Luftwaffe support tree ? Anything wrong ?

Yes, why not give the Ostheer a nuke rocket as a starting ability? :P
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: stealthattack1 on April 25, 2012, 03:48:31 PM
XD almost as good as ghost's sig/quote.
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Mass Killer DL on April 25, 2012, 04:48:29 PM
Hmm, why not making the flak 38 airborne, can you make it as a paradrop unit in the Army support troops, the Luftwaffe support tree ? Anything wrong ?

Yes, why not give the Ostheer a nuke rocket as a starting ability? :P

But to be fair that would be a good idea if you limited the amount of Flak's you could have on the battlefield, and tweak the cool down for a while it is the Ultimate Anti Infantry weapon :p, just got to look out for the snipers that kill the crew an steal the Vehicle.

But yeah I'm only saying this because I want to cut Soviet Infantry in two with this deadly device :P
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Otto Halfhand on April 26, 2012, 11:10:56 AM
I think this thread has entered the Twilight Zone of OT.
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Pac-Fish on April 26, 2012, 12:10:11 PM
I think the reason it's OT is due to the Pictures and the released tech tree :P. But yeah, it is OT.
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: BurroDiablo on April 26, 2012, 05:23:49 PM
It was only the wheeled version of the Flak38 that was removed. Partly due to redundancy, Leig18 and Luchs could prove equally brutal against infantry, but also because of animations. Static Flak38 lives on as an Ostheer defensive structure, so cleaving the Soviets in twain with a barrage of 20mm shells is still possible. ;)
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Mass Killer DL on April 26, 2012, 05:27:16 PM
Its just not the same though ;)

An thought the Animations might prove a problem for the mobile Flak 38, still I can always hope to see them as a reward unit or something in the future  8)
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Alexander 'ApeMen' J. on April 26, 2012, 05:45:56 PM
its like burro already said,
you can still build your flak emplacements like wehr can build mg bunker
so there is not realy a need for a mobile version of the flak

also you should keep in mind that many units not automatically means great faction or cool gameplay
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Mass Killer DL on April 26, 2012, 05:55:09 PM
I'm not arguing with that at all and I get what your saying completely, I just like to see unique units in the game such as the King Tiger/Tiger Ace, Tank Hunters, Fallschirmjäger etc...

Just awesome having unique units in game.

But yeah that's just me it could make gameplay better it could make gameplay worse, but yeah its not my decision its yours so I won't argue with it :)
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Alexander 'ApeMen' J. on April 26, 2012, 05:58:08 PM
hehe dont worry^^
ostheer will be unique

there are so many cool new units, abilitys and command trees
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Major Hochstetter on April 26, 2012, 09:48:59 PM
The Forward Support Center sounds interesting :)
And the InfantryGruppenPost looks very nice!

I am also not happy that the panzerbüchse and the mobile Flak38 were removed. However, the balancer will know it better, especially since there is still a flak emplacements for the moblie flak38.  ;)

Also, I'm very curious how secure sectors with the opel blitz will work.  8)
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Otto Halfhand on April 27, 2012, 03:34:12 AM
I'm glad panzerbusch will get its day in the sun. Marquis de Queensbury?
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Cranialwizard on April 27, 2012, 04:17:23 AM
I don't get the rage over the Panzerbüchse. It is essentially a carbon copy of the Soviet PRTD in game.

I on the other hand much rather would prefer the shieldless shreck in play now. It's unique but offers generalization, like the other two axis armies.
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Pac-Fish on April 27, 2012, 04:29:13 AM
^I think its a sorta iconic German weapon I guess  :-\. And the shieldless shrecks wont perform any different right? Just checking :P
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Alexander 'ApeMen' J. on April 27, 2012, 04:56:55 AM
yes i have to agree that the panzerbüchse would a) come to late as it could be usefull, b) looked more like a cheap copy of ptrd, and finaly c) its the early schreck without the shields, isnt that unique enough for you?

but that dosent mean that there is no place at all for this weapon
we have still the campain and maybe another unit will use it... who knows? XD

@fish
as it is an earlyer verion of the normal panzerschreck the stats can be different from the wehr/pe version
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Otto Halfhand on April 27, 2012, 05:52:44 AM
I don't get the rage over the Panzerbüchse. It is essentially a carbon copy of the Soviet PRTD in game.
THe game treats AT rifles the same as Bazooka like weapons. Historically they are not. The PTRD in game is fine, historically it is OP. Unfortunately the treadbreaker or other crits any AT Rifle inflict are OP in game. For any mod dealing with pre 1943? only AT Rifles would have been available to CW, italians Finns, Sovs, Heer etc.
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: MBJrP36 on April 27, 2012, 08:24:23 AM
http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/10/9675/Panzerbsche_Team.jpg (http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/10/9675/Panzerbsche_Team.jpg)
At least we will always have this.
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Major Hochstetter on April 27, 2012, 09:12:00 PM
@ BurroDiablo
Are you sure? These posts sounds to me like the opposite.

So.. No Panzerbusche? ;C

right
there was no place for it

Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Alexander 'ApeMen' J. on April 27, 2012, 09:14:04 PM
at least there is no place for it with the panzerjäger

but that dosnt mean that there will be no other place for it^^
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: MBJrP36 on April 27, 2012, 10:03:26 PM
at least there is no place for it with the panzerjäger

but that dosnt mean that there will be no other place for it^^
Hint much? :o
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Otto Halfhand on April 27, 2012, 11:43:58 PM
It was only the wheeled version of the Flak38 that was removed. Partly due to redundancy, Leig18 and Luchs could prove equally brutal against infantry, but also because of animations....
Have you talked to the Afrika mod folks recently? They are working on Towed artillery too.

Have you tried using only the prime mover model when ATG is loaded and ATG model when deployed?
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Alexander 'ApeMen' J. on April 28, 2012, 01:26:31 AM
ok again there is no need for the mobile flak38 because we have an flak38 emplacement
so you can still have your flak guys XD

ostheer has already enough units
there is also no need to add more stuff

more units (http://www.thundernail.de/images/lehre/zeichen/ungleich.gif) good game/mod/design/gameplay/fun whatever XD

plz keep in mind that more units are not automatically means something is better^^
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Desert_Fox on April 28, 2012, 01:03:42 PM
plz keep in mind that more units are not automatically means something is better^^

True!  ;)
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Gounited on April 29, 2012, 12:24:12 PM
I wish new maps in ostheer update ;p
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Alexander 'ApeMen' J. on April 29, 2012, 01:15:10 PM
I wish new maps in ostheer update ;p

there will be new maps ^^
dont worry
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 29, 2012, 03:16:54 PM
Indeed, there are great plans concerning the Eastern Front official map pool! There'll be an announcement soon ;)
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: stealthattack1 on April 30, 2012, 02:44:49 AM
ahh, maxi and his beloved mapping surprises! looking forward to the release guys!
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Tankbuster on May 02, 2012, 05:56:43 PM
May I ask what the balancers will do after Ostheer is tweaked?
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: GodlikeDennis on May 02, 2012, 06:00:13 PM
Work constantly on perfecting balance. It can't be done immediately with even a large group, let alone our small balance team. It'll take time for OP/UP things to surface and develop. Look at Wehr med bunkers. They were never a terribly used thing until later patches, despite not even being rebalanced at all for ages. They were simply overlooked.
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Tankbuster on May 02, 2012, 06:01:39 PM
I see, i was hoping that since we had an American faction and a SU faction, the balancers could do you know what.
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: stealthattack1 on May 02, 2012, 07:34:08 PM
cold war mode?
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Tankbuster on May 02, 2012, 07:52:29 PM
Yes, seeing as it has pretty fair balace already, it shouldn't take too much effort to balance Amis and Soviets.
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Alexander 'ApeMen' J. on May 02, 2012, 08:48:41 PM
cold war mode?

cold war mode will probably never happen
its nothing relic would so as an inofficial addon we also wont do this
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Pac-Fish on May 03, 2012, 12:48:26 AM
cold war mode?

cold war mode will probably never happen
its nothing relic would so as an inofficial addon we also wont do this

And plus it would be awkward. Where would you put this thing when all the factions are meant to be add ons the the typically Allies vs Axis? You could call it a mini game(like a operation) but still  :-\. And I highly doubt this would be easy to balance.
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Cranialwizard on May 03, 2012, 12:53:11 AM
Cold war will likely never be done, because it's not in the "Expansion" Style, nor does it seem as entertaining.

Balancing is never a complete process. Look at 2.6.0.2. Not much of an improvement on 2.6.0.1, and far from what I would call "perfect and final" balance.
Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: Walentin 'Walki' L. on July 29, 2012, 09:57:51 PM
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Title: Re: Eastern Front needs you!
Post by: BurroDiablo on July 30, 2012, 07:18:08 AM
All the way to May? ;D

But yeah... skinners get your asses in here, we need somebody on Infantry textures. Please. Pretty please. We can pay you in used cotton buds.