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Announcements (Read-Only) => Announcements => Topic started by: Rikard Blixt on January 18, 2012, 09:44:33 AM

Title: Blackout Day
Post by: Rikard Blixt on January 18, 2012, 09:44:33 AM: Edit2:
SOPA/PIPA pulled from H.R. and S. for now.
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Lamar Smith, the chief sponsor of SOPA, said on Friday that he is pulling the bill "until there is wider agreement on a solution."

Edit:
The massive protests on the internet made a difference.
Quote from: FightForTheFuture
Approaching Monday's crucial Senate vote there are now 35 Senators publicly opposing PIPA. Last week there were 5. And it just takes just 41 solid "no" votes to permanently stall PIPA (and SOPA) in the Senate. What seemed like miles away a few weeks ago is now within reach.

On October 26 of 2011, there was a proposed bill on the United States of America know as Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act), and it's objective is to give complete power to enforce the copyright laws not only for the U.S. government but also for the Copyrights Holders, meaning that they will cut off anything they consider under "copyright-infringement".

The bill discussion on the congress has being delayed by several months, but it is scheduled to be started in February. In the senate, there's a similar bill known as Protect IP Act (PIPA) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROTECT_IP_Act). The senate version is scheduled to be voted on January 24th. Several big companies have embraced this proposal, waiting the moment it goes law, to start enforcing it. That would bring some serious consequences, but let's start for something small:

http://www.youtube.com/v/eFjbGi0x3kg?version=3&feature=player_detailpage

This video would become illegal after SOPA becomes law, because you ripped off a movie to add whatever you wanted and that's enough to take actions against it. You may think, they can do whatever they want after all, I'm not living in U.S.A. what I should care? Even if you are not living in that country, if you use host anything that may be tagged as copyright infringement, the service provider will have no other choice rather than removing your stuff and even the Copyright Holders can request all your information from the provider and shall be given. Also if the U.S.A. implement this law, expect other countries in the world to follow.

This goes against the freedom of speech, Piracy is wrong but this is not the correct way to fight against it. Several sites, including Reddit (http://reddit.com) and Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org) already set their negative stance about this matter and they call for a Blackout Day, stopping to bring their services for a whole day, to demonstrate how things could be if SOPA actually is approved.

For more about SOPA/PIPA, take a look at the video in the link below.
http://www.fightforthefuture.org/pipa
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: dragonmith on January 18, 2012, 11:34:05 AM: While I disagree on other countries following suit, I agree something must be done about SOPA (and PIPA). My support is given.

Is a blackout planed for this site?

I'd say to place one on the mumble server, but there is no one online anyway...
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Rikard Blixt on January 18, 2012, 11:39:11 AM: Not more then we currently have in effect, aka. a black splash when you load a page that you can click away.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: cephalos on January 18, 2012, 12:20:18 PM: USA has SOPA
EU has ACTA

democracies are dying, welcome to democratic stalinism.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: BurroDiablo on January 18, 2012, 12:35:19 PM: Quote from: cephalos on January 18, 2012, 12:20:18 PM
welcome to democratic stalinism.

lolwut? Stalinism has nothing to do with it... this is what we call 'Plutocracy'.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: My Name Is Ante on January 18, 2012, 12:49:10 PM: I wish to help more...
But the only thing I can do is simply spread the news because I don't live in America...
I am sorry and do your best Americans!!!
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: BurroDiablo on January 18, 2012, 01:03:53 PM: This has Global consequences. The Bill essentially gives American corporations free reign on the Internet... if it passes and one day a troll comes here posting 'infringing links', suddenly Eastern Front mod could have it's domain seized by 20th Century Fox or whatever corporation had it's copyrights infringed upon. Its fucking absurd.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Dann88 on January 18, 2012, 01:39:58 PM: The problem is even millions of people sign their name on a big ass paper that on it, there are writings about people hate/against/angry about the bill, the US gov still pass the bill anyway. Politically, you vote a vote to a republic government, you will lost your freedom in... a republic's way and same with the communism :P. They're (greedy and stupid) people anyway, which most of them do things benefit them first. Just wait and see what happens next.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: BurroDiablo on January 18, 2012, 02:11:47 PM: I wish people would stop dragging communism or fascism into these discussions, two subjects which, lets face it, the general populace of the West has a very skewed basis of opinion on due to 70+ years of perpetual Government fear mongering. When something like this happens people are alway really, really fucking quick to scream 'OMG, Communisms!' or 'OMG, Fascisms!' without so much as an inkling why other than 'Gubmint takin mah Freederms!'.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Dann88 on January 18, 2012, 03:20:03 PM: Oh no, not again, my point is the basic of a government which is exist to maintain order and serve the right for (a part of) people in a country or a society. And for the sake of "order", people have to be controlled by the government not the way around, despite the government is created by the (a part of) people itself. So in this situation, they will pass the bill and don't care any people's complains. That's what I want to say. The smart way is to work around it, not fight with it, fighting/against is the last resort and complain is... *sigh*
In my previous post, it should be like "communism one or communism government", my bad :P.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: WartyX on January 18, 2012, 05:30:23 PM: Quote from: dragonmith on January 18, 2012, 11:34:05 AM
While I disagree on other countries following suit

US Internet laws are frighteningly far-reaching.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: stealthattack1 on January 18, 2012, 10:21:04 PM: indeed. im glad that this thread is here. i was actually going to create one, but i am glad that people know about this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w6GtwOvnWM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w6GtwOvnWM)
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: TheReaper on January 18, 2012, 10:41:35 PM: OMG, I come back for what is up with the mod, and I read this. Where we live? In China's Democratic Republic? The sad thing is if they censore things, that means the game screenshot is under copyright smthg or not? And it is succed in US the other countrys will incorporate them to their laws... I feel like we're in the 1950's east europe...
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 18, 2012, 11:51:10 PM: You know guys millions of ppl do NOT support this bill in the US. Its quite frankly a shitty idea, whoever thought of it. Companies will just abuse their power and fuck with the internet. Even our US president, Barrack Obama vows to veto any attempt of this bill to pass through. At least we have some ppl on our side :D

Im kind of glad EF is doing this (even though I dont like clicking through many black screens >_<)
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Sommarkatze on January 19, 2012, 02:30:59 AM: Jesus having sex with Christ!?
Like all the stuff on internet would die!? We are dependence of a free internet!? Think about the porn, the games, my movies!? ( I used fallout 2 music in it PM me for more information! <3) The EF forums!? ;O

I aint the smartest guy. But where do I sign up, tell me what to do to stop this madness!!
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Cranialwizard on January 19, 2012, 02:34:25 AM: Quote from: Fishhunterx on January 18, 2012, 11:51:10 PM
You know guys millions of ppl do NOT support this bill in the US. Its quite frankly a shitty idea, whoever thought of it. Companies will just abuse their power and fuck with the internet. Even our US president, Barrack Obama vows to veto any attempt of this bill to pass through. At least we have some ppl on our side :D

Im kind of glad EF is doing this (even though I dont like clicking through many black screens >_<)

Thanks to Protest, numbers of supporters in the Congressional Bodies have decreased dramatically.

HOWEVER, before Wikipedia and Google blackouts it could have been passed in the Senate with a 2/3 majority. That means Obama wouldn't be able to do shit.

Italy underwent similar legislation drafts a couple years ago. Italian Wikipedia and Google went black and a few other sites as protest, just like the US, and the law was slammed down to the ground and killed by the public. (The bill came around election year IIRC)
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 19, 2012, 02:38:35 AM: Quote from: Sommarkatze on January 19, 2012, 02:30:59 AM
Jesus having sex with Christ!?

The politically correct way of saying: JEESUS FUCKING CHRIST!?!

Quote from: Sommarkatze on January 19, 2012, 02:30:59 AM
Think about the porn, the games, my movies!?

Oh no! What would we do w/o bad acting whores, free tetris, and pirated movies? XD

Im JK, I heavily oppose this bill (especially in since i live in the US)

Quote from: Cranialwizard on January 19, 2012, 02:34:25 AM
Quote from: Fishhunterx on January 18, 2012, 11:51:10 PM
You know guys millions of ppl do NOT support this bill in the US. Its quite frankly a shitty idea, whoever thought of it. Companies will just abuse their power and fuck with the internet. Even our US president, Barrack Obama vows to veto any attempt of this bill to pass through. At least we have some ppl on our side :D

Im kind of glad EF is doing this (even though I dont like clicking through many black screens >_<)

Thanks to Protest, numbers of supporters in the Congressional Bodies have decreased dramatically.

HOWEVER, before Wikipedia and Google blackouts it could have been passed in the Senate with a 2/3 majority. That means Obama wouldn't be able to do shit.

Italy underwent similar legislation drafts a couple years ago. Italian Wikipedia and Google went black and a few other sites as protest, just like the US, and the law was slammed down to the ground and killed by the public. (The bill came around election year IIRC)

Its sad to think more than 2/3 of the senate was willing to let this pass :'(

BTW next time you devs do something like this, could you make the black screens only appear for guest? Its a bit tedious to keep clicking. Im sure any member here wouldn't like this bill anywho.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: 777mais777 on January 19, 2012, 05:48:34 AM: I think this bill of the congress of the USA, is doomed to a failure (in the present and the future).
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: 777mais777 on January 19, 2012, 05:51:32 AM: Quote from: Fishhunterx on January 19, 2012, 02:38:35 AM

BTW next time you devs do something like this, could you make the black screens only appear for guest? Its a bit tedious to keep clicking. Im sure any member here wouldn't like this bill anywho.
He is right, it is irritates. :'(
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Tankbuster on January 19, 2012, 07:08:46 AM: Release the mod before it is passed
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Rikard Blixt on January 19, 2012, 07:40:59 AM: Quote
Approaching Monday's crucial Senate vote there are now 35 Senators publicly opposing PIPA. Last week there were 5. And it just takes just 41 solid "no" votes to permanently stall PIPA (and SOPA) in the Senate. What seemed like miles away a few weeks ago is now within reach.

It worked !
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Tankbuster on January 19, 2012, 07:44:03 AM: Oh well. Guess it will end well. For us.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 19, 2012, 09:47:06 AM: Its a little nice to know the webs efforts wasn't in vain :)
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Seeme on January 19, 2012, 01:11:06 PM: *Then suddenly someone bribes the senate $50,000,000*
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Tankbuster on January 19, 2012, 01:27:01 PM: Did you do that?
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: stealthattack1 on January 19, 2012, 05:10:13 PM: yea..no.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Cranialwizard on January 19, 2012, 07:48:03 PM: Quote from: Seeme on January 19, 2012, 01:11:06 PM
*Then suddenly someone bribes the senate $50,000,000*

No, but I considered gunning down Pat Leahy when I first saw the introduction of this bill.

This guy is only in office because his leading opposition ran under "The Marijuana Party"
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: BurroDiablo on January 19, 2012, 10:44:32 PM: It's not exactly working... :-\

http://rt.com/usa/news/megaupload-shut-million-authorities-231/ (http://rt.com/usa/news/megaupload-shut-million-authorities-231/)

edit

Hahaha, looks like war out there... ;D

http://rt.com/usa/news/anonymous-doj-universal-sopa-235/ (http://rt.com/usa/news/anonymous-doj-universal-sopa-235/)
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Mad hatters in jeans on January 19, 2012, 11:58:45 PM: Batton down the hatches, there be a shitstorm coming.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Rikard Blixt on January 20, 2012, 12:22:02 AM: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought megaupload wad taken down a month ago?
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: BurroDiablo on January 20, 2012, 12:55:23 AM: May have been in some legal shite for a month or so but it was only properly removed today.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Blackbishop on January 20, 2012, 12:55:41 AM: AFAIK they taken down a promo video about Megaupload not the site itself.

(http://www.titaniumteddybear.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/sailor-says-there-be-a-shit-storm-brewing.jpg)
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 20, 2012, 01:54:45 AM: Damn shits gettin real :P. Just think, in 20 years from now this will be in history text books (US history at least)
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: BurroDiablo on January 20, 2012, 02:22:50 AM: Quote from: blackbishop on January 20, 2012, 12:55:41 AM
AFAIK they taken down a promo video about Megaupload not the site itself.

Well, I tried accessing the site when I heard and I couldn't :P
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Blackbishop on January 20, 2012, 03:35:44 AM: @BurroDiablo
Oh, I mean that was what happened one month ago more or less, this time the whole site fell :-\.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Cranialwizard on January 20, 2012, 03:43:38 AM: There's a god damn internet riot out there. Whitehouse.gov is the next big target.

What's better is that Megaupload wasn't even taken down. They have a backup domain.

Operation Megaupload, Operation DonkeyKick, Operation Payback have launched.

FBI.gov and Justice.gov are down.

Several big supporters of SOPA like UMG are down as well.

Bunker down lads...
Quote from: blackbishop on January 20, 2012, 12:55:41 AM
(http://www.titaniumteddybear.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/sailor-says-there-be-a-shit-storm-brewing.jpg)
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Tankbuster on January 20, 2012, 08:41:19 AM: Quote from: Cranialwizard on January 20, 2012, 03:43:38 AM
Quote from: blackbishop on January 20, 2012, 12:55:41 AM
(http://www.titaniumteddybear.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/sailor-says-there-be-a-shit-storm-brewing.jpg)
Yarr!
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on January 20, 2012, 10:47:51 AM: (http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/1938658_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 20, 2012, 12:02:59 PM: Quote from: MaxiKing6 on January 20, 2012, 10:47:51 AM
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/1938658_700b.jpg)

Meh, we still invade it anywho :P
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Tankbuster on January 20, 2012, 01:47:01 PM: Quote from: Fishhunterx on January 20, 2012, 12:02:59 PM
Quote from: MaxiKing6 on January 20, 2012, 10:47:51 AM
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/1938658_700b.jpg)

Meh, we still invade it anywho :P
Yeah, whatever ::)
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Rikard Blixt on January 20, 2012, 10:23:24 PM: SOPA and PIPA has been dropped from both the House of Representatives and the Senate!
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Dann88 on January 20, 2012, 10:39:36 PM: Now what important is the Megaupload's case. Which prove that the US gov don't need SOPA and PIPA to abuse the Internet, but chances they will be failed again. And what about torrent sites in the future? Things gonna get more excited... or not :P.
(My post is just the comment about current events, there is no direct suggestion about ideologies, any flame war begin from this, is purely the cause of the initiator after this comment. Whoa I have to use the disclaimer now)
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 20, 2012, 11:49:55 PM: Quote from: Rizz on January 20, 2012, 10:23:24 PM
SOPA and PIPA has been dropped from both the House of Representatives and the Senate!

Really ??? Where did you hear this from ???
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Tico_1990 on January 21, 2012, 12:13:36 AM: Quote from: Rizz on January 20, 2012, 10:23:24 PM
SOPA and PIPA has been dropped from both the House of Representatives and the Senate!

From what I heard, they are just postponing the vote about it. Not withdrawing it.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 21, 2012, 12:16:07 AM: Quote from: Tico_1990 on January 21, 2012, 12:13:36 AM
Quote from: Rizz on January 20, 2012, 10:23:24 PM
SOPA and PIPA has been dropped from both the House of Representatives and the Senate!

From what I heard, they are just postponing the vote about it. Not withdrawing it.

That sounds more likely :P
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Cranialwizard on January 21, 2012, 03:00:01 AM: Quote from: Rizz on January 20, 2012, 10:23:24 PM
SOPA and PIPA has been dropped from both the House of Representatives and the Senate!

This was due to Lamar's site being ripped to pieces by the Anon team.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 21, 2012, 05:23:21 AM: What is this "Anno" team I keep hearing about ???
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: neosdark on January 21, 2012, 05:39:49 AM: Anonymous is a very skilled group of anarchists and hackers who patrol the interwebs, protecting our freedoms (of the internet of course), attacking big businesses and corporations as well as other large gov't sponsored/supporting organizations.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Cranialwizard on January 21, 2012, 05:44:57 AM: Quote from: neosdark on January 21, 2012, 05:39:49 AM
Anonymous is a very skilled group of anarchists and hackers who patrol the interwebs, protecting our freedoms (of the internet of course), attacking big businesses and corporations as well as other large gov't sponsored/supporting organizations.

They're more of "Hacktivist" than anything else. I wouldn't call them anarchist. They have the ability to love unlike most people think.

(They put a guy in jail by finding out his address and his phone numbers and giving them to the police. The guy posted a youtube video of him masked and he literally beat a cat to near death. Police found it and another cat with scars near their eyes and neck etc. When Anon found the video they found all the info out about the guy, even his facebook profile and the guy got like 7 years for animal abuse. Of course, not before Anonymous had ordered nearly $50,000 worth in pizza and take out combined to his doorstep, and had to change his name because of death threats. To top it all off, one of the hackers adopted Dusty :) )

EDIT: Though the videos are on the internet I recommend you do not watch them.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 21, 2012, 06:02:56 AM: They sound like digital robin hoods :P. Nice to know someones on our side :D
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: 777mais777 on January 21, 2012, 04:16:54 PM: Quote from: Fishhunterx on January 21, 2012, 06:02:56 AM
They sound like digital robin hoods :P. Nice to know someones on our side :D
While they operate within the limits of the law. :)
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: neosdark on January 21, 2012, 04:18:52 PM: Sometimes one must go beyond the law to punish those who deserve it.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: 777mais777 on January 21, 2012, 04:42:55 PM: Where are frameworks? Who knows, maybe they will be think that you bad man, tomorrow? ???
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Cranialwizard on January 21, 2012, 05:00:04 PM: Had they not gotten involved police would have never found the guy I fear. He deserved to be put behind bars.

Infact, according to their code of law, a new rule was added after that incident happened

"Don't fuck with cats. Or we'll find you."

I forget the rule number though.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: neosdark on January 21, 2012, 05:25:42 PM: Quote from: 777Mais777 on January 21, 2012, 04:42:55 PM
Where are frameworks? Who knows, maybe they will be think that you bad man, tomorrow? ???

Well I doubt that, I'm a nobody. I don't even care if they do target me because unlike some people I can live without electronics and in the wilderness. I'm already a hunter, and I am getting extra survival training from my uncle so if need be I can hide in a forest.

If you want to be more broad though, they wouldn't target somebody unless they have a consensus on the fact that a person is breaking laws and/or deserves to be punished or humiliated.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: My Name Is Ante on January 21, 2012, 06:37:02 PM: Quote from: 777Mais777 on January 21, 2012, 04:42:55 PM
Where are frameworks? Who knows, maybe they will be think that you bad man, tomorrow? ???
While internet tend to have troll, flamer, and b**ch in forum, people with these kind of ability has some standard that they never break and honor like a hero...
If internet is a comic book, they are superhero with wisdom of "From great power come great responsibility"...
So don't worry, unless you break the law of internet (which include torture animal - cat especially) you won't be targeted...
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Cranialwizard on January 21, 2012, 06:39:27 PM: Quote from: 777Mais777 on January 21, 2012, 04:42:55 PM
Where are frameworks? Who knows, maybe they will be think that you bad man, tomorrow? ???

They don't intend to mess with you unless you beat up a poor cat named Dusty.

I mean for christ sake they tortured this thing so brutally I even considered just kidnapping the guy and beating the shit outta him before turning him into the police when they posted his address. I'm not a cat lover or anything (Even though I do have one and also have had dogs/cats in the past) but that shit is wrong. There is no reason to take a 2 year cat and throw it against the wall and punch it's head in and then proceed to try and drown it in shower water. That guy deserved it.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: 777mais777 on January 21, 2012, 07:43:08 PM: I am apologize for transfer ( wife hurries):
Cranialwizard@The guy has deserved, if we were its judges, I think it would receive more.
My Name Is Ante@A question in other: nobody knows when the Internet hero will turn to the robber.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 22, 2012, 12:50:59 AM: Well abuse of power is always a poblem. When one person has all of it, history tells us what will happen (totalitarinism, 1984 anyone?)

But Im sure there are numerous "Annos" so they keep the other "Annos" in check and in balance (like our gov in the US)
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Tico_1990 on January 22, 2012, 09:47:56 AM: Quote from: Fishhunterx on January 22, 2012, 12:50:59 AM
Well abuse of power is always a poblem. When one person has all of it, history tells us what will happen (totalitarinism, 1984 anyone?)

But Im sure there are numerous "Annos" so they keep the other "Annos" in check and in balance (like our gov in the US)

No offense, but I think your point lost a lot of power when you mentioned the US government (or pretty much any government for that matter).
Check and balances and a devision of power is a good concept. It works less well however when the people in those positions just work together and tend to 'forget' that they have to do their job of actually checking and balancing the other.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Raider217 on January 22, 2012, 03:43:57 PM: http://rt.com/news/sopa-postponed-anonymous-piracy-337/
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on January 22, 2012, 04:34:32 PM: Victoryyyyy!!! (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Hammer_and_sickle_transparent.svg/50px-Hammer_and_sickle_transparent.svg.png)
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: cephalos on January 22, 2012, 05:24:13 PM: Quote from: MaxiKing6 on January 22, 2012, 04:34:32 PM
Victoryyyyy!!! (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Hammer_and_sickle_transparent.svg/50px-Hammer_and_sickle_transparent.svg.png)

good. Now kill ACTA.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Rikard Blixt on January 22, 2012, 06:28:49 PM: Quote from: cephalos on January 22, 2012, 05:24:13 PM
Quote from: MaxiKing6 on January 22, 2012, 04:34:32 PM
Victoryyyyy!!! (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Hammer_and_sickle_transparent.svg/50px-Hammer_and_sickle_transparent.svg.png)

good. Now kill ACTA.

ACTA is pretty much dead in Europe (except in Poland) imo. ACTA is signed in USA and several other None-EU countries.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: cephalos on January 22, 2012, 06:37:09 PM: Quote from: Rizz on January 22, 2012, 06:28:49 PM
Quote from: cephalos on January 22, 2012, 05:24:13 PM
Quote from: MaxiKing6 on January 22, 2012, 04:34:32 PM
Victoryyyyy!!! (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Hammer_and_sickle_transparent.svg/50px-Hammer_and_sickle_transparent.svg.png)

good. Now kill ACTA.

ACTA is pretty much dead in Europe (except in Poland) imo. ACTA is signed in USA and several other None-EU countries.

and that's sad. We will stop ACTA - our politicians made enough stupid things and this one may be their last.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: 777mais777 on January 22, 2012, 07:02:41 PM: Interesting, whence such ideas appear? ???
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 22, 2012, 08:32:38 PM: What is ACTA ??? Never heard of this b4 :P
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Blackbishop on January 22, 2012, 08:51:40 PM: Because it is Top Secret stuff between goverment leaders and über rich persons of the copyright side only and was unveiled by Wikileaks :). They already accepted that it does exist but they are not willing to make public what the ACTA exactly states.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Rikard Blixt on January 23, 2012, 12:23:16 AM: Quote from: blackbishop on January 22, 2012, 08:51:40 PM
Because it is Top Secret stuff between goverment leaders and über rich persons of the copyright side only and was unveiled by Wikileaks :). They already accepted that it does exist but they are not willing to make public what the ACTA exactly states.

Incorrect-ish, there's a draft version released by the govs.
http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/docs/2010/april/tradoc_146029.pdf
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: My Name Is Ante on January 23, 2012, 12:38:13 AM: Is Filesonic really down?
Well, they disable their open download feature but is it really down?
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Mad hatters in jeans on January 23, 2012, 03:29:42 AM: Quote from: 777Mais777 on January 22, 2012, 07:02:41 PM
Interesting, whence such ideas appear? ???
Basically a knee-jerk reaction in regard to copyright laws...and of course lots of media relies on watertight copyright.
Pretty obvious it was gonna fail but it's still scary it even saw the light of day.

Quote from: My Name Is Ante on January 23, 2012, 12:38:13 AM
Is Filesonic really down?
Well, they disable their open download feature but is it really down?
From what i hear it's a response to Megaupload being taken down for the moment.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: cephalos on January 23, 2012, 11:37:19 AM: Quote from: Mad hatters in jeans on January 23, 2012, 03:29:42 AM
Quote from: 777Mais777 on January 22, 2012, 07:02:41 PM
Interesting, whence such ideas appear? ???
Basically a knee-jerk reaction in regard to copyright laws...and of course lots of media relies on watertight copyright.
Pretty obvious it was gonna fail but it's still scary it even saw the light of day.

Quote from: My Name Is Ante on January 23, 2012, 12:38:13 AM
Is Filesonic really down?
Well, they disable their open download feature but is it really down?
From what i hear it's a response to Megaupload being taken down for the moment.

... yes Megaupload is down and it's founders arrested. And ACTA gives governments enough power to block and ban every page. Example: my studies forum - we are talking mostly about studies, history and recent events. And parties, ofc. Now somebody makes a joke and uploads link to youtube movie - and now our entire forum is reckoned as criminal and piracy site and gets blocked. This is how ACTA works. Now think about it in political terms - site that gains anti-government set people - hire somebody to upload "illegal" youtube movie and then block the site down. Fully legal, isn't it?
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 23, 2012, 12:09:20 PM: Wow Megauploads' founders were arrested? Damn the news is really being hush hush about this :-\. At least I have you guys to inform me ;D
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: My Name Is Ante on January 23, 2012, 12:49:32 PM: Though what worry me is the fact that He AND 4 other people (which is member of the site) are arrested...
Simply because they have account there...
:-X
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: 777mais777 on January 23, 2012, 01:03:08 PM: Quote from: My Name Is Ante on January 23, 2012, 12:49:32 PM
Though what worry me is the fact that He AND 4 other people (which is member of the site) are arrested...
Simply because they have account there...
:-X
It is "ingenious!" :-X
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: stealthattack1 on January 23, 2012, 06:22:59 PM: Quote from: Fishhunterx on January 23, 2012, 12:09:20 PM
Wow Megauploads' founders were arrested? Damn the news is really being hush hush about this :-\. At least I have you guys to inform me ;D
just check a news site that covers this kinda stuff.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 23, 2012, 09:25:50 PM: Quote from: stealthattack1 on January 23, 2012, 06:22:59 PM
Quote from: Fishhunterx on January 23, 2012, 12:09:20 PM
Wow Megauploads' founders were arrested? Damn the news is really being hush hush about this :-\. At least I have you guys to inform me ;D
just check a news site that covers this kinda stuff.

Like? I honestly dont know one :P. I use Yahoo soo yeah :P
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: stealthattack1 on January 23, 2012, 09:49:38 PM: wired.com. newsmax. you can even just google specific issues or news stories. or just normal news station websites http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2012/01/file-sharing-megaupload-shut-down-for-piracy-by-feds.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2012/01/file-sharing-megaupload-shut-down-for-piracy-by-feds.html)
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Cranialwizard on January 23, 2012, 10:19:20 PM: Quote from: stealthattack1 on January 23, 2012, 09:49:38 PM
...or just normal news station websites

Previously you could not search large news corporations like fox, abc and NBC because their large central company had supported SOPA, which made sure that the word didn't get out about it quickly enough. Had local news stations done stories on SOPA in October the bill woulda been dead by November. But again, the big wig corporates supported the bill.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: stealthattack1 on January 23, 2012, 10:58:19 PM: (http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/6100/memesiseethepoint.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/memesiseethepoint.jpg/)
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Cranialwizard on January 23, 2012, 11:08:17 PM: (http://api.ning.com/files/Xn6RV5Y50pbFK-4nfM7GdDho7NF3Lm7FDmT9YQonKh4_/orly.jpg)

If you think THAT's funny, you'd have wished you have access to the internal forum. I'm on a roll with the pictures.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 24, 2012, 01:49:28 AM: Quote from: Cranialwizard on January 23, 2012, 11:08:17 PM
(http://api.ning.com/files/Xn6RV5Y50pbFK-4nfM7GdDho7NF3Lm7FDmT9YQonKh4_/orly.jpg)

If you think THAT's funny, you'd have wished you have access to the internal forum. I'm on a roll with the pictures.

Mine is more sophisticated than yours ;D
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: stealthattack1 on January 24, 2012, 02:24:36 AM: Quote from: Cranialwizard on January 23, 2012, 11:08:17 PM
I'm on a roll with the pictures.

(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6504/knapp01.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/42/knapp01.png/)

nah, im just messin man, I wouldn't want to usurp your position as ultimate Mememaster ;)
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Boolge on January 25, 2012, 05:10:34 PM: First of all, do you honestly think the government is concerned about piracy?
They are just using the excuse of "piracy" to take away freedoms and rights. Just like they use the excuse of "terrorism" to violate our constitution ,declare war on any country they want and take away our rights for our "safety" because the U.S. government cares soooo much about us and wants to contro- keep us safe...

I'm sure a lot more things will be taken down than just "pirating sites" and I'm sure our nice government will make a list of definitions for "pirating sites" some of these sites will most likely include sites speaking against the government, sites that expose some of the secrets these huge corporations are so desperate to remove, sites that might involve "terrorist activity", etc.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Cranialwizard on January 25, 2012, 05:45:23 PM: As a buisness I would be concerned if my content or services were released for free. I would be at loss for profit and eventually out of buisness due to piracy.

While I disagree with legislation taking action against piracy because of broad interpretation I agree piracy is wrong
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Boolge on January 25, 2012, 06:34:37 PM: Yea I agree piracy is wrong too but the government isn't concerned about piracy its concerned about control of what people say and they are just using piracy as an excuse to take away freedom of speech.

This happened in the past when they wanted to ban alcohol, it made it look good cause you would think only drunks would be against that. But what really was happening was people were making their cars run off alcohol thus hurting the oil companies.
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Tankbuster on January 25, 2012, 06:54:29 PM: Actually only some alcohol is used instead of a car running on beer. But wouldn't that be nice?
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 25, 2012, 08:09:33 PM: I've never heard of an achocol powered car :P. But I dont think that was the reason for prohibition. Im not an expert or anything but the idea seems far fetched
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Boolge on January 25, 2012, 09:20:30 PM: here are some links if you don't believe me...

http://harmonyhealth.wordpress.com/2008/10/22/alcohol-prohibition-removed-competition-for-rockefellers-standard-oil-company/

http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/videos/big-oil/prohibition-act-passed-to-stop-alcohol-from-competing-with-the-new-petroleum-industry.html

but I was just using it as an example...
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Blackbishop on January 25, 2012, 10:07:35 PM: Thanks for sharing them Boolge, I didn't know about it :).
Title: Re: Blackout Day
Post by: Boolge on January 25, 2012, 10:39:55 PM: No problem, enjoy! ;D