Company of Heroes: Eastern Front

Eastern Front Mod (Read-Only) => General Discussion => Topic started by: ford_prefect on March 22, 2010, 07:35:12 AM

Title: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: ford_prefect on March 22, 2010, 07:35:12 AM: this new update .05 or whatever............has seemed to have vanished into dust........along with the players of the mod...........:( my question is are the devs still trying to update it or is that the last update and were done.....the mod itself seems dead yes one or two servers are always up but I mean come on I remember the good old days where HALF of the servers were Eastern Front I see ALL these new faces everywhere on the forum WHERE ARE YOU IN THE GAME we need to play Eastern Front gentlemen or it will die....it will die a horrible death of starvation....A starvation caused by the lack of players of the game itself one update is all it takes for a mod to become alive once more....something so when you tell someone "hey did you get the update" they say
"oh for that buged to hell game Eastern Front"
you can say something like its changed......get people to play the bloody thing and it will live!! People lets do this I want this damn thing to live as much as the rest of you lot but we need to play!
get on the game and play people and an update will inspire the people to ;)
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Happycat on March 22, 2010, 12:55:46 PM: I'm also waiting for this update... :'(
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: ford_prefect on March 22, 2010, 01:06:19 PM: nonononono you don't get the point you need to play now to respect the update and for people to know that there is a mod; most do but they think its unfair I hope with the update it will be fair so tell them that!
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Toxic19813 on March 23, 2010, 08:17:41 PM: I agree on the topic... I stopped playing EF after my comp died a day or so after 1.04, and was waiting for an update up until now... This is my first post since-- a long time. :P

PS: I haven't seen Loupblanc on for a while... did his computer blow up?
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Killar on March 23, 2010, 09:23:50 PM: Does anybody know about the update?

Last thing i heard was 1.05 is ready and Dev Hawk has to upload it...
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Venoxxis on March 23, 2010, 10:45:54 PM: honestly, this guy is too right.

But i guess the mod team knows about that already. I think
we just need some news from the team and the mod, it doesnt
has to be a patch.

Just some news maybe some pictures of reward units or pictures of the upcoming ostheer.
This forum is dying atm.
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Tiger 131 on March 24, 2010, 10:52:31 AM: Patience people.

I'd prefer a delayed 1.05 to iron out ALL issues than rush it and need another patch.

I'm sure the developers aren't going to bury and forget this mod!
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Michael Wittman on March 25, 2010, 01:42:59 AM: A "katyuska" killed 6 or 8 of my KCH just driving into them, i got totally PWN, i was so sad that i quit the game.

be patient :_(

they will rise like zombies soon (:
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: FriendlyFire on March 25, 2010, 06:00:39 AM: Quote from: Toxic19813 on March 23, 2010, 08:17:41 PM
PS: I haven't seen Loupblanc on for a while... did his computer blow up?

Yea...I was wondering what became of him...his anoying rants were somthing that I enjoyed...NOT
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: hgghg4 on March 25, 2010, 01:08:30 PM: status updates on the progress of the patch would be nice
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: luz777 on March 25, 2010, 01:33:06 PM: I think I read over on Moddb that the guy in charge of the updater had dissapeared somewhere and they needed him back to release 1.05

So perhaps they're just working on new stuff whilst waiting for someone to come along and fix the launcher up etc.

Thats what I like to think anyway :)
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Zerstörer on March 25, 2010, 06:11:07 PM: Its fair to say that the majority of people dislike the lack 'no retreat ' function which also makes the faction less than 'new user' friendly.
Coupled with the no re-crewing,no true vet,inability to use prop war and lack of ranking online it seems to have discouraged the majority of people from online play. As such your best bet is to get to know people in the forums and pre-arrange games. Everyone else plays single player comp stomp.

'When' the patch is released it will only address unit balance issues and teching, but none of the above.
Although I'm sure it will somewhat re-ignite online play for a brief time, those who wanted the above things amended will still not get it ,so I wouldn't expect online gaming to be on any decent levels and certainly no where near what it was in the first 2 weeks (the good old days).
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: greyreth on March 25, 2010, 06:59:23 PM: it's a viable product anyway. (word of honour of QA, heh)
The only bug that is really annoying is freezing production queue when armory upgrade is completed. like when you're busy with your frontlines and sure that 3 upgraded ingenery units are ready to be deployed near the HQ building when you need them - then you move camera there, oops, no one...
so...Blizzard's "done when done" should work perfectly here)

waiting for the Ostheer.
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: luz777 on March 26, 2010, 01:56:30 AM: Aye, sadly it seems people who play CoH for a better rank and all that stuff didn't take to the lack of it in EF.

I still think its one of the bestt mods I've ever played and just enjoy the single player, with much better AI :D as I could never find a way to make my skinpacks and custom reward units work for online.

Looking forward to future updates anyhow :)
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Loupblanc on March 26, 2010, 06:57:16 AM: Hello Toxic and Ford Prefect and Luz777, no my computer
didn't blow up :) I'm fine and still playing, thank you :)
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Shaq on March 26, 2010, 03:28:08 PM: The soviets seem pretty bland atm
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: SavageWorld on March 27, 2010, 02:22:07 AM: It is all about reaching the tipping point. When a large enough part of the community play EF that becomes the norm. When the next pacth comes out you should try to post it on GR.org and ask if it could be poseted in the in-game news section. If that is not enough try to get a EF tournament going that will force a lot of the better players to play until they have a deep understanding off the game and this will result in strats and guides posted on gr.org which will increase the amount of attention the game gets.

If everything else fall I can assure you that when the OStheer comes out many people will begin to play again if only for a few weeks.
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Zerstörer on March 27, 2010, 08:48:05 AM: We've tried that from the beginning but doesn't work.
There is a good reason why there is no mod section in GR.org for any game. Its because the majority of people there don't play mods.

The staff there effectively did a 180 degree change in their attitude towards the mod once it was released. From enthusiasm it then turned to 'don't bother'. They never even shoutcasted a single EF game (not that there are many submitted)

They were not interested in running a tourney and perhaps that is rightly so due to the number of features missing from EF. When there is no player interest in GR for EF, they won't waste time running an unsuccessful/unpopular tournament.
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: SavageWorld on March 27, 2010, 02:00:34 PM: would it at least be possible post a note on the front page of gr.org it migth not be enough to get every one to play EF, but some people will see it and begin to play it again.

I think that the main reason why so many people stopped playing so fast was because of the 1.0 balance. If 1.1 is better than people might come back.

You can always hope. :)
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Shaq on March 28, 2010, 06:00:10 AM: I hope people arnt putting off playing eastern front because the lack of ranks
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Blackbishop on March 28, 2010, 07:04:25 AM: Indeed... who gives a f#@&$ about rank anyway. I usually play against the PC, even if i play campaign instead of skirmish, i always use Eastern Front, in my opinion, it replaced Tales of Valor. I eagerly wait for the next patch for our beloved partially official add-on ;D.

P.S. You already stated the next patch will bring balance to russians(1.05), that's mean patch 1.07~2.0 would bring the ostheer? I'm just being optimistic, that's all :).
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Shaq on March 28, 2010, 10:33:25 AM: Love to see whats in store for the osteer, maby the 1500 monster tank? :P
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: huggy on March 28, 2010, 01:19:38 PM: You can't really blame the community, it seems like the whole EF team went underground for a couple months now, no news, no patches. The only thing that keeps the community alive is the community itself wich is starting to die slowly :'(.

anyway hang on there hopefully theres comming a 1.05 with the greatest balance fixes ever ;D
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: luz777 on March 28, 2010, 05:26:16 PM: Whilst we havn't had as much news and updates as I'm sure some people would like, other than those nice re-skins over on Moddb, compared to a lot of other mod teams the EF guys are pretty vocal.

Maybe they just want abit of a rest haha
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Red_Stinger on March 28, 2010, 07:40:31 PM: Its pretty sure that 1.05 will be available soon.
When EF was announced, I remember I did'nt believe it and, now, thanks to EF team, we can play it!! Soon all players wil play at EF, we need only a means to inform them!

The main word is: PATIENCE (or you will be shot lol ;) )

Quote from: hgghg4 on March 25, 2010, 01:08:30 PM
status updates on the progress of the patch would be nice

+1 it would be reassuring to have info on "what we're doing"
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Rikard Blixt on March 28, 2010, 08:14:48 PM: You will receive an update during next week :).
Not about the 1.05 patch, but something else...
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Venoxxis on March 28, 2010, 09:53:01 PM: Quote from: Rizz on March 28, 2010, 08:14:48 PM
You will receive an update during next week :).
Not about the 1.05 patch, but something else...

ohha, i hope that will bring some news and some life back
into the forums.
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: boc120 on March 29, 2010, 12:04:10 AM: Yes, one would hope.
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: hgghg4 on March 29, 2010, 04:52:41 AM: Quote from: Rizz on March 28, 2010, 08:14:48 PM
You will receive an update during next week :).
Not about the 1.05 patch, but something else...

I hate to be the Devil's advocate here but if the update doesn't involve a date in which we can expect the 1.05 patch or some sort of completion update of the Ostheer people probably won't really give two flying foo foos... Point is, is this is a good mod, problem is that the Dev's APPEAR to not care anymore. Yes I understand RL has a way of getting in the way of this stuff, but its been over a month since the last update for the mod... eventually all but the most hardcore followers will have left and gone on to other mods/games....
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Akalonor on March 29, 2010, 06:51:08 AM: I play Blitzkreig until Ostheer comes out.I'm not good against Comp or players -.- unless its in BlitzK, There I am average.but yes an update would be nice.
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Blackbishop on March 29, 2010, 07:13:23 AM: Quote from: hgghg4 on March 29, 2010, 04:52:41 AM
Quote from: Rizz on March 28, 2010, 08:14:48 PM
You will receive an update during next week :).
Not about the 1.05 patch, but something else...

I hate to be the Devil's advocate here but if the update doesn't involve a date in which we can expect the 1.05 patch or some sort of completion update of the Ostheer people probably won't really give two flying foo foos... Point is, is this is a good mod, problem is that the Dev's APPEAR to not care anymore. Yes I understand RL has a way of getting in the way of this stuff, but its been over a month since the last update for the mod... eventually all but the most hardcore followers will have left and gone on to other mods/games....

Well, if not an update for patch 1.05, i think it could be about:
a) ultimate ostheer's list.
b) Relic colaborated to solve recrewing bug.
c) reward units/new skin for units/replace units.
d) campaign info
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Venoxxis on March 29, 2010, 12:16:04 PM: I suggest a huge concept update for russia, or the
presentation of reward units.
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: ford_prefect on March 29, 2010, 02:09:28 PM: I made this thread to give hope to the people of the forums but.....it seems like people will not hope for anything these days
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: SavageWorld on March 29, 2010, 05:48:30 PM: Quote from: blackbishop on March 29, 2010, 07:13:23 AM

Well, if not an update for patch 1.05, i think it could be about:
a) ultimate ostheer's list.
b) Relic colaborated to solve recrewing bug.
c) reward units/new skin for units/replace units.
d) campaign info

I hope for b, thourgh a or c would be nice to, I don't really care for d but i know a lot of people do.

Quote from: Rizz on March 28, 2010, 08:14:48 PM
You will receive an update during next week :).
Not about the 1.05 patch, but something else...

It was posted sunday so the update will come this week :)
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Rikard Blixt on March 29, 2010, 08:20:49 PM: Quote from: SavageWorld
It was posted sunday so the update will come this week :)

Indeed
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Akalonor on March 29, 2010, 11:34:11 PM: Ford Perfect sounds like an old priest trying to save the land from some evil he only realises, hah
No offense intended but it did sound a bit like that.
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: huggy on March 29, 2010, 11:44:11 PM: Quote from: Akalonor on March 29, 2010, 11:34:11 PM
Ford Perfect sounds like an old priest trying to save the land from some evil he only realises, hah
No offense intended but it did sound a bit like that.

+1 me declares ford_perfect's rank gets changed to "Forum Preist" instead of Field Marshal
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: GamblerSK on March 30, 2010, 12:50:15 AM: Prophet ;D
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: ford_prefect on March 30, 2010, 03:04:12 AM: Quote from: huggy on March 29, 2010, 11:44:11 PM
Quote from: Akalonor on March 29, 2010, 11:34:11 PM
Ford Perfect sounds like an old priest trying to save the land from some evil he only realises, hah
No offense intended but it did sound a bit like that.

+1 me declares ford_perfect's rank gets changed to "Forum Preist" instead of Field Marshal
HAHA YES!!!!!!
lmao no I just want you guys to play the mod and enjoy it so I can live (Forum preist sounds good though ;))
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Akalonor on March 30, 2010, 03:59:22 AM: The Forum Priest Has spoken!
Go play EF now!
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: ford_prefect on March 30, 2010, 06:26:13 AM: yes....yes...MUHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! uhh I mean yea just go play guys
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: luz777 on March 30, 2010, 01:23:16 PM: Amen Brother ;D
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: ford_prefect on March 30, 2010, 02:30:01 PM: thats "father" to you ;) lol no okay devs im not the forum prophet (THAT WOULD BE SICK THOUGH!) hehe ;D but making like timed battles for the people of the community normally works for dying mods
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: boc120 on March 30, 2010, 03:21:27 PM: Yes that's a good idea. If times to play were set up ahead of time, people wouldn't be the 1 person looking for a game at that time and give up after 2 minutes and go back to normal COH to play. Everyone misses each other like that, even if there are several who want to play.
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: WartyX on March 30, 2010, 05:50:45 PM: Who dares to preach in my parish?
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: ford_prefect on March 31, 2010, 12:26:03 AM: hehe ;D
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: huggy on March 31, 2010, 01:07:41 AM: zomg! Bishop wartyX
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: ford_prefect on March 31, 2010, 02:26:30 AM: but I just want to be the Forum Priest he can still own the church ;D
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Akalonor on March 31, 2010, 02:42:55 AM: WartyX should be the Archbishop of EF and Ford Perfect could be the forum priest or monk. :D
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: PoldekPL on April 01, 2010, 12:06:10 AM: I can take the role of one-annoying-guy-that-tells-you-we're-a-bit-offtopic :P
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: ford_prefect on April 01, 2010, 12:43:06 AM: well I think they get the point of playing ;) gotta build of a reputation of being a Monk first.....hmm anyone got some water I can turn to wine or something?
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: hgghg4 on April 01, 2010, 05:40:37 AM: Quote from: PoldekPL on April 01, 2010, 12:06:10 AM
I can take the role of one-annoying-guy-that-tells-you-we're-a-bit-offtopic :P

No

We are a bit off topic...
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: ford_prefect on April 01, 2010, 06:41:30 AM: well all there is to say is that YOU NEED TO PLAY THE BLOODY THING FOR IT TO LIVE
Post Merge: April 02, 2010, 03:15:52 PM
now it seems to me that this forum is dead too
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: luz777 on April 05, 2010, 02:54:12 AM: Its not dead at all really, plenty of active threads.

Just not the hive of scum and villiany it was right after the first releases ;D
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: ford_prefect on April 05, 2010, 04:39:42 AM: Quote from: luz777 on April 05, 2010, 02:54:12 AM
Its not dead at all really, plenty of active threads.

Just not the hive of scum and villiany it was right after the first releases ;D
shame...this mod deserves more from the people...
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Akalonor on April 05, 2010, 06:38:08 AM: Amen, Brother Ford!
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Seeme on April 07, 2010, 03:41:28 AM: ITS a week whern you said something is coming out,what is it?????????

When I log on each day I get 0-1 games on ef. Anyone have more? If so, am I missing something?
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: ford_prefect on April 07, 2010, 02:41:00 PM: yea something came out....An April fools day joke of the Ostheer did
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: wordsmith on April 07, 2010, 08:06:33 PM: Is this glass half full or half empty?

It's just a matter of view angle. Of course there are less players than right after release, such things occurs when anything new come and after a while it's not new anymore. I think that situation is not so bad as it looks. There are always some players, even though few, playing at least when I connect (10-11pm CET). If there is no game I just create one and wait a little and there always someone come so it is possible to play either 1vs1 or comp stomp.

I also think that this mod requires a lot of work, not only on Ostheer but also on Red Army so that is propably reason why not so many players play it. Not to mention some things needed to be done by Relic to make modding easier. I hope that devs have enough energy to finish what they started ;) because this is really something heroic to do...
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: playswithwolves on April 07, 2010, 08:58:30 PM: Devs,

I had sent a message via "Contact" about offering to host a mirror for the downloader on my Dreamhost.com site (if it's possible). I'm not sure if you received it, but the offer still stands. Just contact me via a private message.

Looking forward to 1.05 ... and hoping that it fixes some of the crash problems. ;D
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: ford_prefect on April 07, 2010, 11:29:12 PM: not sure why that belongs here but okay....Devs can you make it so that I (or I can help) set up fight nights? I've done it or supported it with a couple of games and mods including Mare Nostrum and Making History. They REALLY do wonders for dead or dying mods
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Cranialwizard on April 08, 2010, 12:45:11 AM: What I think we should all do is...

Arrange a day to Play Together!!!

Maybe, Possibly, if we held Tournaments announced on the forums?
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: ford_prefect on April 08, 2010, 01:37:43 AM: that's the definition of fight night!
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Cranialwizard on April 08, 2010, 03:10:47 AM: Actually I didn't read the above post until I had already replied ;D

But when I say tournament, I mean full blown.

We could get together a whole slay of trees, and pair people up at random. Whether it's 1V1 or 4V4. We'd play on a match basis. I'm sure you guys know how the gamereplays.org tourneys work?
Post Merge: April 08, 2010, 03:11:47 AM
I would defiantly volunteer to help set this up and I'd love to pair up with someone. This is a great mod, and this is a good boost for it.
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Akalonor on April 09, 2010, 02:54:51 AM: I can make it if
1. It is at night.
2. you get paired with someone of equal level.
3. There is NO requirement on skill level(I am terrible)
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Versedhorison on April 09, 2010, 04:58:23 AM: My time zone probably doesn't help me much...
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Loupblanc on April 09, 2010, 06:21:22 AM: Yea, I'd be totally interesting :)

Slay a whole bunch of trees??? WTF?
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: WartyX on April 09, 2010, 08:29:02 AM: You all seem pretty enthusiastic about the Fight Night idea, which is great. It is down to the community to organise it but I will offer any help you need for this event. We do have ties to GameReplays.org, so if you need to contact them give me a bell.
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Seeme on April 10, 2010, 03:19:56 AM: I would join :)
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Versedhorison on April 10, 2010, 10:19:30 AM: I'd be keen
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: IEatBolsheviks on April 10, 2010, 03:20:01 PM: I actually just had the idea of a Fight Night to show off the mod and came here to post it - made only 2nd place though.

GR's Sunday Night Fights http://www.gamereplays.org/companyofheroes/portals.php?show=news&news_id=601843&home (http://www.gamereplays.org/companyofheroes/portals.php?show=news&news_id=601843&home) attract a lot of viewers (max was 200+). So this is about live broadcasting a game!

But I definitely would start small: a 1vs1 with 3 rounds. If that works out one can think about a fully fledged tournament.

So we need one participant who is able to broadcast in high quality. I volunteer to be his opponent but I'm only lvl 6 and I have crappy upload speed.

What would be really cool is to have some of the devs give some info about the mod and comment that game live!

Here's how to live broadcast yourself in case you're new to it: http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=534619 (http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=534619). And here's THE Broadcast Status Site: http://broadcast.fulltimegeek.de/ (http://broadcast.fulltimegeek.de/).

BTW: XFire and the Broadcast Status Site already recognize the EF mod so you'll see the EF icon when someone is broadcasting an EF game. And as you see the site already sports the OMG mods banner - it could show the EF mod's banner, too.
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Seeme on April 15, 2010, 12:51:44 PM: I have a topic, read it :)
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Grunt on April 26, 2010, 06:17:05 PM: White wolf,you should spam.. I mean post more,you know,keep the lads calm knowing you stalk around threads as usual. They won't admit it but I bet they miss you :)
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Toxic19813 on April 26, 2010, 11:16:30 PM: Quote from: Grunt on April 26, 2010, 06:17:05 PM
They won't admit it but I bet they miss you :)

lol good observation!

Back on topic-- I probably would join the tourney, but time zones would be a problem.
Title: Re: absence of updates......absence of players
Post by: Grunt on April 28, 2010, 06:21:49 PM: Quote
lol good observation!

Thank you ;)