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Offline Loupblanc

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Re: Hotchkiss tank V. T70
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2009, 03:37:56 AM »

 Burrito :
  - Pz38(t) : Yea, that's got my vote ;) Although it was
 obsolete by 1942... mmm... but it'd be nice yea :)
 - Marder3 is built on Pz38(t) frame? Dude, you don't know
 what you are talking about!! Actually, the
 
 Marder III
The Marder III is the name for a series of World War II German tank destroyer s built on the chassis of the Panzer 38(t). German word " ...
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 ... Dum de dum de daaa...

 - Luz777 : Yea, it's got my vote :)
 Pz2 can be a reward unit :D

 - Ford Prefect : Oooh so that's the link, allright.
 I get it now :) No comments :)
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Re: Hotchkiss tank V. T70
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2009, 05:00:19 AM »
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- Marder3 is built on Pz38(t) frame? Dude, you don't know
 what you are talking about!! Actually, the
 
 Marder III
The Marder III is the name for a series of World War II German tank destroyer s built on the chassis of the Panzer 38(t). German word " ...

lolwut? I'm not sure if what you're saying is satire or what, but its making no sense...

From Achtung Panzer -

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The Marder III was produced in two variants - Ausf H and Ausf M. They were based on the Panzerkampfwagen 38(t) Ausf H and Ausf M light tank chassis, respectively.

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Re: Hotchkiss tank V. T70
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2009, 05:21:17 AM »
WHAT...................THE................HELL COME ON GUYS! Ahhhhhhh you say I go off topic a lot (which I do sometimes but the latest time I deleated my comments that were off topic) CAN I JUST GET AN ANSWER BURRO BEFORE THE THREAD IS COMPLETLY RECKED?

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Re: Hotchkiss tank V. T70
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2009, 06:21:15 AM »

 - HolyBurrito : I thought the Marder3 couldn't possibly be
built off the Pz38(t), then looked it up (to plaster you with
irrefutable proof and... ... well, dumdedudaaa... ;) (Runs to
hide under bed)
 
 - If someone wants to play a BT7/T34/76(1940 turret)
 vs Pz38(t) + 2x Stu3B in Combat Mission : Berlin to Barbarossa
 with troops, in a snowstorm at night... ;) I'm all for it! :D
 
 - As for Ford_Prefect : I answered your question! :D
 I gave you awesome, best reply already! :D

 : It's wrecked, not Recked, and I don't even speak the
 language ! :D
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Re: Hotchkiss tank V. T70
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2009, 07:45:02 AM »

 - HolyBurrito : I thought the Marder3 couldn't possibly be
built off the Pz38(t), then looked it up (to plaster you with
irrefutable proof and... ... well, dumdedudaaa... ;) (Runs to
hide under bed)
 
 - If someone wants to play a BT7/T34/76(1940 turret)
 vs Pz38(t) + 2x Stu3B in Combat Mission : Berlin to Barbarossa
 with troops, in a snowstorm at night... ;) I'm all for it! :D
 
 - As for Ford_Prefect : I answered your question! :D
 I gave you awesome, best reply already! :D

 : It's wrecked, not Recked, and I don't even speak the
 language ! :D
yeah thats how pissed you got me I'm not even checking spell check any more
also to tell you the trouth I well don't care about what you THINK about it because you don't have the mod I am kind of pissed that burro decided to go on and on about what ever the hell you guys are talking about without even posting ONE LITTLE POST ABOUT THE SUBJECT AT HAND.
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Re: Hotchkiss tank V. T70
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2009, 12:49:19 PM »
Ford I think you should get some insence sticks and have a good old calm down.

Also get some punctuation.  :P

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Re: Hotchkiss tank V. T70
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2009, 04:52:26 PM »
Ford, whining about it isn't going to make matters any better... so shut up.

What you requested required some testing, so I went PE and got myself a bunch of Hotchkisses. Now, this isn't exactly what you asked for, but it puts the Hotchkiss in some perspective... for a shit French light tank, it packs quite a punch... these 3 made quick work of T-34's and even managed to take down an IS-2 -

3 Hotchkiss vs IS 2

The IS-2 in the Vid is at about 80% health and only 2 of the Hotchkisses have the long barrel upgrade.

It makes a difference from the Soviets pwning eh, when an IS-2 can be humilated like that ;)

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Re: Hotchkiss tank V. T70
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2009, 06:16:50 PM »

 Ford_Prefect : To tell you the trout? What? You talk to
 fish now? :p Man, don't play with your food. That's just wrong.
 
 - I don't need a spell checker ;)
 
 Luz777 : I think he needs to get laid, actually :D

 MostHolyBurro : Ooooh, man, we love you :)
 But, actually, the question was 1 Hotchkiss vs 1x T70
 ... But I suppose this answers it...

 Poor IS2... I thought it was supposed to be all-powerful
 and invulnerable and could kill a KingTiger in a single blow!
 That *IS* a 122mm... ;)
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Re: Hotchkiss tank V. T70
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2009, 06:41:55 PM »
This was with AI, for some reason it prefers to build T-90's as opposed to T-70's. Gah, wish we could get the T-60 in instead of that god awful T-90.

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Re: Hotchkiss tank V. T70
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2009, 06:57:45 PM »

 Well the T90 is a pre-upgrade Puma thingie... so, perhaps?
 Ahh, evil AI :) Get that super coder guy to fix it! Lol.

 T60 would replace T70 not T90 ;) Different hull.
 And get ZSU37 instead of T90 :) (I know, animating the
 crew is the issue, sigh). Slap a tarp over them ;) (as per
 T90)
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Re: Hotchkiss tank V. T70
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2009, 07:36:18 PM »
Ford, whining about it isn't going to make matters any better... so shut up.

What you requested required some testing, so I went PE and got myself a bunch of Hotchkisses. Now, this isn't exactly what you asked for, but it puts the Hotchkiss in some perspective... for a shit French light tank, it packs quite a punch... these 3 made quick work of T-34's and even managed to take down an IS-2 -

*snip*video*snip*

The IS-2 in the Vid is at about 80% health and only 2 of the Hotchkisses have the long barrel upgrade.

It makes a difference from the Soviets pwning eh, when an IS-2 can be humilated like that ;)

The reason the IS-2 died was because he didnt hold still lol. He showed his rear armor and decreased his accuracy by moving around a lot. Still, that does show the IS-2 is the super tank it seems

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Re: Hotchkiss tank V. T70
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2009, 07:43:33 PM »

 Big long slow turret gun. Moving about and losing accuracy
 showing his butt to those hotchkisses...
 If it'd been a player, would have gone differently

 But yea, it can be killed :D
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Re: Hotchkiss tank V. T70
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2009, 08:43:08 PM »
The majority of the frontal shots penetrate however, so indeed, this is not the super OP Panther pwnerer that the majority seem to think.
If I was to put 3 T-70's up against a Panther, I can guarentee the Panther would survive with very little damage.

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Re: Hotchkiss tank V. T70
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2009, 08:49:35 PM »
Hmm lets see here. IS-2 can best a panther 1v1 according to the guide. So IS-2 > Panther.  3x Hotchkiss > IS-2 and according to burro 3x t-70 < Panther. So that means IS-2 > 3x t-70 and therefore 3x Hotchkiss > 3x t-70. Divide by 3 and you get Hotchkiss > t-70. There ford_perfect, I figured it out for you.  ;D

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Re: Hotchkiss tank V. T70
« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2009, 09:01:40 PM »

 I'm confused now :)
 Hmm... ...

 So who would win in a 3x hotchkiss vs 1x Panther fight?
 I vote to remove the OP Panther from the game, then ! :D

 Frontal shots penetrate? WTF :)
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